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Old 08-17-2017, 08:44 AM   #1
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Default Japanese blacksmith, sword.

Hello,

You can identify the blacksmith and the inscriptions on this sword.

What do you think?

Thank you very much.










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Old 08-17-2017, 08:59 AM   #2
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You will need much clearer pictures of the signature as they are too blurry for me to read. Also you have the signature posted upside down and sideways which complicates matters. The nakago should be posted with the butt end at the bottom and the top towards the cutting edge in a vertical shot. The correct term is sword smith, not black smith.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:06 AM   #3
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Here are better photos. You are right.





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Old 08-17-2017, 10:16 AM   #4
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濃州住亮信
Nōshū Jū Akinobu
Akinobu of Nōshū [modern Gifu]
[亮信 is also read as Sukenobu]

昭和十八年一月
Showa 18 [1943], January

mune:
名ホ1
Na-Ho 1
Perhaps Nagoya

Page 25, bottom.
"Akinobu", civilian name Toki Yūichi 土岐雄一, born 2 January 1907, student of Kanenobu 兼延, died 14 May 1993, he was working as rikugun-jumei-tosho; he is also listed with the reading "Sukenobu."


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Awesome. Thanks a lot for your help.
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:58 PM   #6
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You didn't clean the tang did you? I guess I would not worry so much about cleaning this one but I would not do it again, especially an older hand forged sword.
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Old 08-18-2017, 02:06 AM   #7
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Hello,

No I did not clean the silk with the signature. I picked up the sword like that. I do not touch her.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:51 AM   #8
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The stamps on the nakago mune (spine of the tang) are the inpspector marks of the Nagoya Arasenal and Kokura First Arsenal


 小
 Army Arsenal Kokura First Factory inspection mark: "Ho".


 名
 Army Arsenal Nagoya Factory - Nagoya Army Arsenal inspection mark: "Mei"

This will USUALLY mean the blade was non-traditionally made, however exceptions are found to exist.
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Quote:
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 Army Arsenal Kokura First Factory inspection mark: "Ho".
But Bruce hit the wrong key .... he meant to say:


ho; katakana syllabary.


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But Bruce hit the wrong key .... he meant to say:


ho; katakana syllabary.


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This is a traditional sword not?
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Quote:
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This is a traditional sword not?
Maybe some guys who study nihonto can give an opinion. Arsenal inspector stamps normally mean "non-traditional ", but I say "normally" because I've just acquired a star-stamped gunto with an Arsenal inspector stamp on the nakago mune like yours. Star stamped gunto are supposed to be traditionally made, so the inspector stamp creates a mystery.
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Thank you for your reply. The sword and the blacksmith are identified as traditional. For the stamp, traditional blades could also be inspected in arsenal. There is no seki stamp on the blade. Just the inscriptions on the slice of the silk.
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 名
 Army Arsenal Nagoya Factory - Nagoya Army Arsenal inspection mark: "Mei"
Bruce-the-Multitasker

Let me explain to others. 名 is pronounced "mei" and "na".

Generally speaking *ALL* kanji have a minimum of two pronunciations: Japanese and Chinese [from the time Japan borrowed the kanji]; sometimes there are 6 or more different readings!

Native Japanese pronunciation is called Kun-yomi (meaning-reading) -- these are native Japanese words used before Chinese sounds were incorporated .... [like the way Norman-French words are now "English" (beef=cow; pork=pig; etc.) since the Norman Conquest in 1066.]

Chinese pronunciation is called On-yomi [sound-reading].

Here's a short article that is quite informative.


Back to the sword...

Kun: na; ~na
On: myo; mei
Japanese names: To

Ergo, 古屋 is Nagoya





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Old 08-19-2017, 10:05 PM   #15
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Guy, That makes you smarter than a rocket scientist!

I thought it was odd. I grabbed that line from the Ohmura site (NCO page on stamps). I hadn't noticed it ever being called "mei" until then.
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