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Old 09-03-2017, 02:48 PM   #16
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The rear strap buttons that I added are non matching..1 crown + 1 plain smooth brass. If its an early coat it should actually have smooth buttons all around right?
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Old 09-03-2017, 02:51 PM   #17
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Any markings even faint ones to be seen?
YES!!!
Found something...appears to be a Roman numeral...Is this helpful to date the overcoat? I don't see any date stamps...
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Old 09-03-2017, 03:57 PM   #18
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IMO it would have the 07/10 style buttons that you have now (except the one) on it. I like this coat, it is interesting on a few levels. It's a feldgrau hybrid of the pre-war silver gray EM overcoat and the universal greatcoat introduced in late 1915 (I think). My understanding is that the orders authorizing the style of coat that you have were issued early in 1915.......so this type of OC may have been made for 6 months or so. I have an example of this same type OC in feldgrau dated 1914, showing that some were in fact made and issued before the 1915 order was issued.
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:37 PM   #19
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The stamp looks like a B.A. corps marking.

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Old 09-03-2017, 05:46 PM   #20
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That would be Corps "Bekleidungs Amt" so supply channel
So the crown buttons would be appropriate, not smooth buttons...
(as seen on Prussian blue dress uniforms).
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:51 PM   #21
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Is an officer impression, as shown, realistic (for field wear)?
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:54 PM   #22
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What branch is white? White wool backing (white underlay)

(white is infantry for WW2 , but was red in WW1, if I'm not mistaken...)
These were tied together in unissued condition for a very long time, which caused staining.

Prussian Army?
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Old 09-03-2017, 05:57 PM   #23
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Last set. I think it turned out pretty good like this! 250E will spent!
(not counting straps + crown buttons expense)
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:10 AM   #24
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Reading now that these crown buttons are more appropriate for tunics and that the great coats had (slightly larger) rimless crown buttons...Correct?

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=greatcoat
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but here is one with buttons that have rims...
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According to Kraus, the issue M1908's had rimmed crown buttons, the same as those on the M07 tunic. The 1915 Ersatz pattern introduced at the beginning of 1915 started out with the same crowned tunic buttons, but a Prussian decree from October 21st 1915 ordered that blank, matt finish, zinc buttons be used.

Officer's occasionally wore enlisted coats. The bright straps (Prussian M15 infantry) were for the dress uniform. There were subdued ones for field use, though officer's continued to wear the bright pattern (perhaps preferring not to purchase new ones). So, though fixing up an enlisted coat to display as an officer is a bit of a stretch, it was not an impossible combination.

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Old 09-04-2017, 05:35 PM   #27
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Thanks Chip! That's good enough for me! Leaving it "as is". Restored with components that I had laying around...
being that I am on a budget...
All I need to do is fix the back strap buttons to match the front (already ordered and en route!)
and the straps are getting Numeral cyphers which are missing (holes present)
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:38 PM   #28
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Came out quite nice. How are the smaller buttons throughout--original horn or other period material, not plastic?

That almost looks like a BAVII for your stamp, which would be Westphalian or Lotharingian troops, for the most part.

Did I overlook the reasoning for the officer boards?
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Came out quite nice. How are the smaller buttons throughout--original horn or other period material, not plastic?

That almost looks like a BAVII for your stamp, which would be Westphalian or Lotharingian troops, for the most part.

Did I overlook the reasoning for the officer boards?
Thanks for the positive comment. The small closure buttons on the rear slit (tail) were all missing...
only remnants of thread seen...
I put period small metal buttons (but of French origin...) So call it a front line field repair with scavenged buttons!
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:19 PM   #30
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Here another image of the Imperial crown buttons. The shoulderstraps have smaller shoulder buttons of course.
The reason to go with an officer impression is because those were the only rank insignia I had laying around....
(and it is very plausible for front-line use like this)
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