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Old 04-28-2007, 11:13 AM   #16
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The 1916 dated 11/11 filter. This mask was captured by a Canadian Lieutenant on March 2nd 1917.
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Markings on the GM 17 filter.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:00 AM   #18
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these are very neat items. In my book I have a large chapter on the different types of German gas mask filters. They are several of them with internally different layers v(in number and content). The shape is slightly different as well comparing them. Excellent !

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This is my only French gasmask at present. The disadvantage of this model compared with the German masks, is that the Germans had a seperate filter which could be adapted to protect against new chemicals/gasses.

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Old 04-29-2007, 08:34 AM   #20
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Here are a couple of shots of my driver's "mask", the so-called "R.Z. Mundstück".



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Old 04-29-2007, 09:07 AM   #21
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Chip

A nice mask you have.

Are there any markings on the mouth-piece ?

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Johan,

Yes, it has the Dräger logo on the mouthpiece.

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Old 04-29-2007, 12:05 PM   #23
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Gas mask for casualties with head wounds

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Segeltuchtasche 16



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very nice, especially the gas mask for casualties with head wounds ! Would be nice to see some close-ups if possible. Does it has any markings ?

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these are very neat items. In my book I have a large chapter on the different types of German gas mask filters. They are several of them with internally different layers v(in number and content). The shape is slightly different as well comparing them. Excellent !

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Johan,

I have yet to read your book and am looking forward to it.

I've noticed hardly any differences in the 10 or so filters I have, but thats because they are limited to 2 models, and are marked either 11/11 (11/11S) or 11-C-11 except for one which is unmarked. I am constantly on the lookout for a 1915 model Gummimaske with the early filter, which is hard to find over here. At least for me.

One other thing I've wondered about - and maybe this is something you can shed some light on - is whether it is possible to attribute the small differences in construction of the Ledermaske to certain makers or if they're model upgrades (I have yet to find any maker marks on any of my GM 17s.) One aspect in particular that I've noticed is the wire loop variations shown below.
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I absoluetly love your Segeltuchtasche and mask.
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:17 PM   #28
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I'm not aware of manufacture-differences for the Leadermaske and I'm very intrigued by this. Perhaps someone on the forum has more info ?

In terms of gas mask type, there were (at least) the :

1) In 1915 the Gummimaske - type 1 - Gasschutzmaske 1915 or Linienmaske
2) Also in 1915 the Gummimakse - type 2 Bandmaske
3) In 1916 the Gummimaske - type 3 Rahmenmask
4) In 1917 the Gummimaske - type 4

Followed by the leather masks :
5) In 1917 the Ledermaske (Lederschutzmaske, Gasmaske 17)
6) and in 1918 the Gasmaske 18

For the filters, there were the :
1) Single layer filter (September to October 1915)
2) Single layer model 1915 (Einschichteneinsatz Modell 21/8) - required a design change of the mask fittings
3) Triple layer model 11-11 - Type 1 (Dreischichteneinsatz) end 1915
4) Triple layer model 11-11 - Type 2 (Dreischichteneinsatz) in 1916
5) Triple layer model 11-C-11 (Dreischichteneinsatz) in May 1917
6) Double layer model 1918 (Sonntagseinsatzes)

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Old 04-29-2007, 01:36 PM   #29
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Thank you very much for the comprehensive list. I wasn't aware that there were two 11/11 filter versions. Was the first version already in use with the Linienmaske or just with the Bandmaske?
The GM 18 has always confused me because some say the wartime version had the ventilation valve, while others say it was added post war. I would assume the latter is correct.
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Hans

indeed, the masks with the big round ventilation valve were post WW1. The big difference of the 1918 mask wre the lack of spiders and improved head straps.

These later filters were probably used on earlier masks too (except the very early one)

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