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Old 08-30-2017, 03:03 PM   #1
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I was offered this helmet but I am unsure of it. It appears to be an Artillery Officer's One but I have never seen this plate. I looked in my reference materials and this one was not pictured.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:06 PM   #2
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I am also not comfortable with the style of the ball because it is unlike others that I have seen. Maybe it is earlier than WWI?
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:06 PM   #3
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More photos!
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:10 PM   #4
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The plate and the ball have been on there a long time.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:11 PM   #5
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Many thanks in advance to all of those that take the time to reply.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:49 PM   #6
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I don't think it is military, but rather something like a fireman's helmet. That might be a city Wappen on the front.

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Old 08-31-2017, 12:32 AM   #7
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Yes, I agree with Chip.

The helmet is a Fireman's helmet. Front plate (wappen) is a city crest (for which I do not know which city it is.)

Helmet has metal trim around the edge of the back visor, which is indicative of a fireman's helmet. Military helmets did not use the metal trim on the edge of the back visor.

The ball top and the cloverleaf base that supports the ball on the top of the helmet is also typical of those used for a fireman's helmet. It is actually shaped/styled differently from what was used on a military helmet.

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Old 08-31-2017, 01:37 AM   #8
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Helmet has metal trim around the edge of the back visor, which is indicative of a fireman's helmet.
Thanks for that piece of info - good to know!
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:05 AM   #9
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The city crest could be the one of the Bavarian city "Bamberg"

For comparison an old seal from Bamberg with the knight, lance with flag, long sword, shield with eagle and the 5 towers above (http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Bamberg).
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:07 PM   #10
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Many thanks to all. I have learned from this experience.
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