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1957 Medals, Orders and Decorations Third Reich Awards redesigned in 1957 without National Socialist Emblems, including Post-war and Veteran-related items.

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Old 11-17-2016, 03:21 PM   #31
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It's a indeed a nice set! But there is no way to proof, whether it's a wartime or postwar product. At least not yet...
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:53 PM   #32
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It's a indeed a nice set! But there is no way to proof, whether it's a wartime or postwar product. At least not yet...
"Proof" is a problematic word to use in this hobby IMO. There is no way to proof a lot of things in this hobby. Especially when I think about "vet attributed pieces" sold by certain dealers...etc.
An experienced opinion based upon comparing the type of finish and details (frosting, polished details, crispness etc.) to known postwar pieces can be of help though.

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Old 11-17-2016, 06:18 PM   #33
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An experienced opinion based upon comparing the type of finish and details (frosting, polished details, crispness etc.) to known postwar pieces can be of help though.

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I agree with this. Does anyone have better (and closer) photos of the obverse (and reverse!) of this set in the Shropshire Light Infantry Museum?
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:41 PM   #34
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Another Deumer set.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:18 PM   #35
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I agree with this. Does anyone have better (and closer) photos of the obverse (and reverse!) of this set in the Shropshire Light Infantry Museum?
WOW !!!!!!!!!! Tom
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Another Deumer set.
Is this a painted frosting on the obverse?
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It's a white frosting of some sort (can't really tell if chemical or painted) with the highlights polished. Very striking in hand.
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It's a white frosting of some sort (can't really tell if chemical or painted) with the highlights polished. Very striking in hand.
I would expect such a finish on period Deumer oaks.
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Old 11-18-2016, 02:40 PM   #39
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Same sort of frosting on the Deumer Destroyer?
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Old 11-20-2016, 06:54 AM   #40
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Here are some pictures of my Deumer oakleaves attached to a S&L postwar cross.

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http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=792449
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Old 11-20-2016, 06:56 AM   #41
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Some more pictures.
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:00 AM   #42
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One more picture. The first picture shows the set from The Shropshire Regimental Museum.
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maybe I missed it if stated but who is the maker of the Knights Cross in the Shropshire Regimental Museum?

And another thought I had. Is there a wartime badge with an 835 silver marking stamp from Deumer which could be compared to the oakleaves?

Is the stamp the same size as the one on their Spain Cross?

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maybe I missed it if stated but who is the maker of the Knights Cross in the Shropshire Regimental Museum?

And another thought I had. Is there a wartime badge with an 835 silver marking stamp from Deumer which could be compared to the oakleaves?

Is the stamp the same size as the one on their Spain Cross?

William Kramer
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http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=979213
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:51 AM   #45
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Note that the "Oaks" portion of the golden set of O&S shown by Weitze (for the German Order) as being from Deumer, does not match the Oaks on the Deumer card Shropshire set. (See specifically the more oblong shape of the second leaf from the bottom to the left of the center vein).
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