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HUGE WW2 USAAF 488 bomber group w/ patches, photos ,negatives, movie rare decal help!
Old 07-09-2018, 10:56 PM   #1
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Smile HUGE WW2 USAAF 488 bomber group w/ patches, photos ,negatives, movie rare decal help!

Hi all!

I recently picked this group up off the son of the Veteran and thought you would all enjoy. I usually do not specialize U.S. Air Force groups but this one was quite interesting. There are likely over a thousand photos and equally as many unpublished negatives (most of different planes and areas that were not developed.) There are 4 large film reels, likely of WW2/Korea where he served. I am trying to find the best service to put these on DVD where they can be archived. One of them has a special plane in it (two P51's fused together at the wing tips)


The 488th Bombardment Squadron group to Andrew Lucas comes with the leather patch from the veterans jacket, as well as his medals, other patches and more. The patch depicts a women holding a lightning rod and riding a bomb naked! There is an identical giant fold out painted picture, I am not sure if this is a decal for the plane or not. Interesting, the veteran was a army photographer as well as flyer and took photos of the identical painted picture! (you can see the same folds in the material as in the photo.) Several of the photos show Andrew wearing the identical patch, and other shows the decal on the plane! Could anyone give me an idea of exactly what the large decal was used for, and how rare it and the leather patch are?


Veteran Andrew Lucas served in Sicily, Italy, and eventually Occupied Japan. He took a massive amount of photos, which increase in Quality after Japan. There are photos of his time in Sicily and Italy, with a burned out German tank as well as several captured Italian planes. These photos come with an Italian Officers pilot badge complete, which the son told me he traded for food/cigarettes! After the War he served in Korea and other areas until 1966 in various units, including a mapping photography unit in England. There is a ton of stuff in the group, including a Killroy statue (one plane has his face on it!) and a collection of Japanese photos and made in Occupied Japan objects.

If anyone could offer any additional information or comments I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks and enjoy!


































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Old 07-09-2018, 11:30 PM   #2
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Wow! That is an amazing grouping!!! I have dreams about finding a huge group like this...


You should consider some type of research project/article on this veteran. Hopefully you will keep this group intact!!!!


Congratulations on your find, and thanks for posting.
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Old 07-09-2018, 11:31 PM   #3
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WOW!!!
That is an impressive collection from one guy.
I love the squadron patches and all the detailed photos.
Thanks for sharing.
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:08 AM   #4
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That is an outstanding group. I do not understand why his son would want to part with it.
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:53 AM   #5
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Incredible!

Nice find

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Old 07-10-2018, 01:15 PM   #6
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Are you kidding me? WOW! That was a major find. Your foot locker was made in post war Japan. McArthur kept the guys working in the aircraft plants busy by making these footlockers. They made them in many sizes and production continued into the 60's. The early ones are made from aircraft aluminum and rivets that had been intended for Japanese military aircraft. Great find!
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Old 07-10-2018, 02:18 PM   #7
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That is a fantastic grouping! The Joined Mustangs you reference are the P-82 Twin Mustang and they scored the first three air to air victories in the Korean War (their intro to combat), they were used extensively during the early stages of that war. The pictures are incredible. The Italian aircraft he has pictured are fairly uncommon in US collections, I see the Fiat G50 and Macchi 202. There may even be a 205 in the background of one of those pictures.
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:25 PM   #8
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Thank you all for the kind words! Could anyone give me an idea of what the large decal is from? I am unsure if it is an actual plane decal, or perhaps if it was used as a photo display for the unit (I still can't believe I have a photo of the same painted decal in B&W.) I would like to frame this professionally and keep it in good condition. I am also unsure if the set of photos I posted shows a small atomic bomb blast or some other large ordinance explosion.


crowback- Thank you for your kind words, often times there is no one to pass the family group on, and I intend to spread many of the photos/videos so they can been seen and kept!
p-59a - Thank you for the information on the trunk! I had absolutely no idea the truck was Japanese!
Gary Cain- Thank you for the information on the planes, I can't wait to see the footage! I also had no idea Italian aircraft photos were uncommon in US collections.
historyguy- I may take additional photos of the documents when time permits and share them here. I only managed to photo part of the collection, and skipped out of tons of photos, including his Japanese photos from the Occupation period.



I will attempt to scan additional photos when possible and find a place that can turn the negatives into photos, as well as put the films on DVD/internet which I think will be harder to do properly. Apparently one of the films has the first aerial footage of a Chinese YAK aircraft being flown in the Korean War, proving that the Chinese were backing the North Koreans.
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Great collection. If memory serves that lovely patch design was used in the 1970s film "Catch 22" which centered around a Med-based B-25 unit in which author Joseph Heller served as a Bombardier. Congrats! Bob
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beautiful group!
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Absolutely amazing collection.....As stated, it's one we all dream about finding some day....Congratulations, Bodes
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:26 PM   #12
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Good lord what I would do for that giant decal and those Christmas cards. My grandfather was a tail gunner in a B25 with the 488th. You're very lucky to come across a collection like this. Is the unit "yearbook" included in there? It's titled "Round the World with the 488th."

And yes this is the unit around which Catch 22 was based. Heller was a lieutenant in the 488th.
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Old 08-11-2018, 05:41 AM   #13
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A truly stunning grouping, thank you for sharing
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:30 AM   #14
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Nice grouping, I envy you. The decal was most likely just for decoration or souvenir. Framing it sounds like a good idea.
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Great News
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Hi all,

I managed to take the film reels from this group to a local film specialist and had them digitalized- the film was thankfully undamaged and came out fairly clear. The footage is quite interesting despite having no sound, including gun camera footage, explosions, tanks, P-51 planes taking off, Korean girls and other footage unseen for a long time. There is even a section with the veteran Andrew Lucas is editing film in a darkroom during the Korean War! A slide in the first film reads: "35 Fighter Group, 39 Fighter Squadron 22 JAN 51", with another slide dated May 5th 1951- All of the footage is from the Korean War.

Any additional comments or information would be greatly appreciated. I put the 4 separate files on YouTube so all can view them, I hope you enjoy!



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Part 1: https://youtu.be/OSnudxd1Wjw

Part 2: https://youtu.be/DkOquosjgPc

Part 3: https://youtu.be/tub***7ezIw

Part 4: https://youtu.be/ry422c8EJuw
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