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Old 12-20-2003, 10:51 AM   #61
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Agree, nice eagle Terry. Please do a search on the Uniform Forum for 'Luftwaffe Breast Eagles' and post it there too.

Willi, have seen several nice green HBT jackets with blue grey HBT backed eagles. Had a mint one but let it go; same source as your green step in
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Old 02-07-2004, 12:40 PM   #62
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Interesting about the camo printed completely on the tan base. Have you seen a smock like that? I have seen splinter smocks (including early step-ins) that seem to be on a more tan base. But, I have yet to see a smock that had all the colors printed over tan fabric.
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:05 AM   #63
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Thanks John,

I guess that's another chapter Willi will have to write


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A nice early green eagle cut from a step-in smock:

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Old 02-16-2004, 10:27 AM   #65
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Sorry try again...
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NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE! Have a similar one that was picked up in North Africa, it has red dust through out the fabric.
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A late-war green/grey cotton-backed eagle cut from a tan/water smock ( or field division jacket ).

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A splinter over olive:
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Old 02-16-2004, 10:48 PM   #70
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Nice ones Steve! Did you have a recent birthday or something?

A question for all. How many smock eagles are out there? I encounter collectors all the time who seem to have one in their insignia display. There must be 100's of smock eagles out there.

I am surprised at how many early green GM eagles are out there. And, most seem to be trimmed so closely to the eagle. I just find this to be interesting. One of mine just has a tad bit of splinter camo peeking out........so, clearly a splinter over GM smock. I guess vets of Tunisia seemed to be the ones who first cut these things off. Since green smocks in beat condition where not a prize item to send home, I guess it makes sense that they just cut the eagles off.

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Well, gentlemen, as Rick stated earlier on, this has certainly been an incredible learning experience for me on para jump smock eagles. Thank you! I would like to share here a cut-out insignia from my collection.

If I understand the foregoing thread and the terminology on camo material, etc. correctly (please correct or confirm), mine is:

a grunmeliert-backed eagle tightly stitched on to a jump smock with the splinter-pattern camo printed on the outside of the olive green base fabric.

I believe it is very similar to the one shown above in post #41, and even more-so the one in post #65, except that mine has lots of background material.

If I understood correctly the detailed information contained in this thread, my cut-out is an early one and quite a collectable example.

Your comments will be most appreciated. Thanks, John
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:12 AM   #72
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Obverse of cut-out eagle
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Reverse of cut-out eagle
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Beautiful eagle John . I think you described it accurately.

Congratulations!!

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Hello,
I have this green back eagle still sew to a chunk of green HBt like material, it is zig-zag sewn, on the back, you can still see a piece of greyish liner material, could this be a piece of Jump smock, oh, the eagles backing looks the same as cloth it's sewn too.
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