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Old 12-05-2018, 01:26 PM   #1
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Default EK2 mm 122 opinions & review

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For me now arrived this the mm 122 type by J.J. Stah
When I put them next to each other ,there was some sort of difference between the swastika, and the painting too different.

Possible that two different innercore ??
Or only on the right side swastika sharper & deeper.

What do you think about it ?
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:27 PM   #2
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:28 PM   #3
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:38 AM   #4
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H guys
For me now arrived this the mm 122 type by J.J. Stah
When I put them next to each other ,there was some sort of difference between the swastika, and the painting too different.

Possible that two different innercore ??
Or only on the right side swastika sharper & deeper.

What do you think about it ?
Hi Sanya,

In my opinion thay are not two different inner core.
Over the years, among some manufacturers, the technology of the blackening process of core has changed, the dies were worn out, and the result was visual differences in the appearance of the core.
We see similar situations, for example, in Godet's EK2-1939 crosses (Yours photos), or in Maybauer's schinkels EK2-1939, and in other producers ...

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Old 12-06-2018, 05:27 AM   #5
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H Jarek
Thanks for the opinion, I agree with you , I think this on right side a earlier made it maker piece ( because the lines sharper ) maybe ,.
The inner core painting of course possible different types as it was often the case with other manufacturers too.

& Thx again the your opinion




ps : but the early godet ,have two different inner core types
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:59 AM   #6
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ps : but the early godet ,have two different inner core types
Sanya, are you talking about crosses EK2-1939?

If so, it's very interesting.
I would like to see these 2 different types of early Godet's cores ...

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H Jarek

although this was not the topic, but yes

Exist two different frame and two different inner core ( big & smaller swastika )

here is the ling

these variants exist EK1 & EK2 too

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...et#post6536089
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Sanya, are you talking about crosses EK2-1939?

If so, it's very interesting.
I would like to see these 2 different types of early Godet's cores ...

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Sorry Sania, I absolutly can't agree

Please, measure the length of lines I. and II. on both crosses, and compare.

Lines II. are almost the same, lines I. are differ by 0.5 centimeters.

Conclusion - the impression of different sizes of swastika is the result of uneven frames, not cores. Of course IMO

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H Jarek
you are right ,
I've never measured it because of the look really looked bigger ( I faith was Gary Douglas)

here are the sizes / mm /

- early Godet with mm L/52

blue : 8,04 - 7,99
purple : 7,85 - 7,77
yellow : 1,82
red : 1,44
green : 10,83
frame size is brown : 5,71

- unmarked early Godet

blue : 8,03 - 7,91
purple : 7,62 - 7,52
yellow : 1,82
red : 1,44
green : 10,78
frame size is brown : 5,85

unmarked with homemade disc

blue : 8,03 - 8,04
purple : 7,76 - 7,67
yellow : 1,79
red : 1,39
green : 10,82
frame size is brown : 5,85

early unmarked /new/

blue : 7,91 - 7,96
purple : 7,59 - 7,56
yellow : 1,54
red : 1,43
green : 5,89
frame size is brown : 10,89

EK2 early type Godet

blue : 8,09 - 7,99
purple : 7,63 - 7,75
yellow : 1,87
red : 1,48
green : 5,76
frame size is brown :10,73

thefore said now , that you are right

but ,have two different frame type (this good )
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Here are the two different frame type (both pieces unmarked )
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H Jarek
you are right ,
I've never measured it because of the look really looked bigger

..............................................

thefore said now , that you are right

but ,have two different frame type (this good )
Yes Sanya, different frame, but only their sizes.

It was through years of production that it happened - die wear, errors of workers, etc. And it can also be seen in other producers of EK2 crosses.
Personally, however, for me these differences in frames do not constitute the basis for the separation of a new type of cross at a given manufacturer.

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H Jarek
THX the answer and opinion
IMO these difference not worns or repaired
tomorrow will I show you ,that what about I thinking
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Yes Sanya, different frame, but only their sizes.

It was through years of production that it happened - die wear, errors of workers, etc. And it can also be seen in other producers of EK2 crosses.
Personally, however, for me these differences in frames do not constitute the basis for the separation of a new type of cross at a given manufacturer.

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