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06-23-2012, 11:05 AM
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Mills Cartridge Belt with M1873 Bayonet
Just got back from scouring the country side. All that turned up today was an Arisaka bayonet and this Mills belt with the M1873 bayonet. Does any one know what model the Mills cartridge belt is? I think it is a M1885.
What do you guys think? Thanks for any help.
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06-23-2012, 01:45 PM
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I can't say for sure, but I believe the grommets for the attachment of the bayonet scabbard indicate that it is an 1887 model.
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06-23-2012, 02:42 PM
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John.
I missed the date on the plate and there are only 45 cartridge loops. M1881?
The bayonet is a real gem. While the scabbard is not perfect the bayonet rates about 98%, it is beautiful.
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06-23-2012, 03:48 PM
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1881 is the patent date on the buckle. The Model 1881 Cartridge Belt was canvas and leather with a leather sewn on buckle and tongue attachment.
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06-24-2012, 01:14 PM
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Thanks John. I guess that I have a lot to learn in this area.
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06-24-2012, 06:16 PM
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John,
Can you recommend a good reference book that covers pre 1900 U.S. militaria?
Thanks
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06-24-2012, 07:59 PM
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There are numerous books on the market, but R. Stephen Dorsey has been a collector/dealer for many years, and has several books out. You might check out his site to see what he offers.
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06-24-2012, 08:05 PM
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is that belt in here? 
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06-24-2012, 08:45 PM
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The two Indians on the left side are holding Model 1873 Winchesters, probably in .44 WCF (.44-40). The second from the right looks like a Model 1873 Trapdoor Springfield which would have been in .45-70, and the Indian on the right appears to have a conversion of a Civil War musket which would have been in .50.70.
The belt on the second from the left is the Model 1881.
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06-25-2012, 06:42 AM
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thanks, they were a nice bunch of guys to have over for dinner some night
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06-26-2012, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Peppers
There are numerous books on the market, but R. Stephen Dorsey has been a collector/dealer for many years, and has several books out. You might check out his site to see what he offers.
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John,
Thanks for the help. It looks like "American Military and Naval Belts 1812-1902" would cover this area real well. I am going to be set up at a show this weekend so I will have to see if the book dealer there has it.
Thanks again
Jim
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