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Old 12-06-2009, 06:39 AM   #136
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A metal example.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:44 AM   #137
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One of my favourite images.

From the treasure trove of the 'Life' archive. Note the French camo in the background.

Photo is dated circa 1961.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:51 AM   #138
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how about some beret badges? can post closeups if wanted.

Hunter,

can you add some detail images of the hand sewn types when you get the time?

I would like to add them to my own reference files.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:00 AM   #139
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One more of the same unit.

Two French camo garments can be seen and note the rank tab normally worn on the chest affixed to the beret.
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:32 AM   #140
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Patrick,
Love your berets and pictures! Here are the closeups
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:32 AM   #141
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:33 AM   #142
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Here are some breast badge variations: First off are handmades
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:34 AM   #143
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next, machine mades
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:53 PM   #144
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Hunter,

has a reason for the variety of colours used in the designs ever been put forth?

I have a reference from Bill Doyle in an old addendum to Clem Kellys works to multiple colours being used in the machine mades, but has there been any further information since that time come to light?
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:56 PM   #145
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To add to things, two more examples of the type shown in the top right of post #142 from Hunter.
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Another.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:48 PM   #147
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I couldn't answer about the reason behind the different colors on the breast badges. That's probably a question for Dennis

If I recall correct (and tell me if I'm wrong) I think he said that, at least as far as helmets go, each battalion had a predominant color that they used to set themselves apart...Perhaps these color variations on the breast badges could have something to do with that as well?

Just a shot in the dark....
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:54 PM   #148
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The BDQ qualification badges shown in post #143 were ones that I observed up to my departure in May of 1969. As the Ranger forces grew in number and took over all of the LLDB boarder camps, it became the largest military force of the war. Because of this fact machine made patches was a necessity to fill the demand.

Machine made patches as shown in post #143, in my mind were produced during the later part of the war beginning in the ‘70’s. I will check to see if information is available from the Vietnamese.

In reference to the question in Post #144, each battalion had their own design and color schemes.

The 42nd and 44th used black and yellow in different designs. The 38th in 1966 had multiple color schemes with the black tiger and star on the front. To identify the different companies, the color scheme would highlight a specific color as the main color with the other colors being secondary. Color scarves were also worn to designate companies in the field. For command and control on the ground and in the air, the use of bright colors definably helped. Ranger units were not shy to let the enemy know that they were up a specific Ranger Battalion.

Two pictures that show the design differences of the 42nd and 44th Rangers Battalions are presented for reference. The 42nd is shown first followed by one of the most recognizable BDQ photographs showing Capt. Devlin, Sr. Advisor to the 44th Ranger Battalion at an awards ceremony. Also notice all of the insignia worn on his uniform. I know there is a color photograph of this same picture, and if others have access to it, please post.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:55 PM   #149
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Captain Devlin author of WWII Airborne, also served in the Korean War with the 187th Airborne Bn. See patch on his right shoulder and star on his CIB.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:02 PM   #150
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Here is a photo of the 44th Bn. in a staging area waiting helicopters to Eagle Fight them into battle. Ranger Bn. in IV Corps was very successful using helicopters since much of their AO's were often surrounded by water.

The 44th helmets had more of a parallel line pattern, where the 42nd had a ram pattern, like the L.A. Rams.
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