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RAF Bullion Cap
Old 06-07-2019, 11:45 PM   #1
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Hi all,

just wanted to show off my first bit of RAF regalia. Had it looked at by the folks at war relics confirmed it as a WWII/early post-war hat. It's a bit salty but I love it. Thanks for looking!
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Old 06-08-2019, 01:20 AM   #2
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Imperial Crown is OK for up to 1952, some used them also later, not everybody bought the new one with St. Edwards Crown right after the Change.
WWII is possible, hard to tell on these Private Puchase Caps, won't say it's a stocked Item.
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Old 06-08-2019, 02:09 AM   #3
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Nice cap with lots of character.

I recall an author claiming that the "piping" around the top of the cap indicates post-war manufacture.

Also, a thinner chin strap than this one tends to be a WW2 feature.

As uscob mentions, the KC was evident well into the 1950s.

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Old 06-08-2019, 02:27 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies first of all!

And yeah it’s hard to pin an exact date on it. I admittedly don’t know much about RAF caps but I could resist this one. Most of the British bits in my collection are Victorian campaign medals so this was quite a departure!
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Old 06-08-2019, 02:28 AM   #5
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Nice cap with lots of character.

I recall an author claiming that the "piping" around the top of the cap indicates post-war manufacture.

Also, a thinner chin strap than this one tends to be a WW2 feature.

As uscob mentions, the KC was evident well into the 1950s.

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Any idea as to which author/book? Would love to try and narrow down when the cap comes from
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Old 06-08-2019, 04:29 AM   #6
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I sold it quite a while ago, but it was a Schiffer Publication on British Officer headdress. I was really only interested in the air force content.

May still be on their titles list if you're lucky.

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Old 06-08-2019, 04:34 AM   #7
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Here's my example. Note the plain stitched seam around the top's circumference and the thin strap. This is meant to guarantee WW2 period.

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Old 06-08-2019, 01:11 PM   #8
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Cheers Mike, yours looks fantastic.
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Old 06-08-2019, 04:20 PM   #9
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The notion that Air Force WW2 officers' service dress caps are post war if they have a welt to the crown seem is absurd.
I have a named cap with a welted crown. This cap also has a wide chin strap. His service record shows that he had no post war service.
The cap is Canadian made and he would have brought the cap after being commissioned in July 1943 in Canada.
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Old 06-09-2019, 02:22 AM   #10
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perhaps not something that can be compared, but for british army officer caps, the lack of the piped crown seam is a post war feature and wider chinstraps are seen prior to WWII.

As far as the cap itself, it could be wartime or shortly after.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:03 PM   #11
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The notion that Air Force WW2 officers' service dress caps are post war if they have a welt to the crown seem is absurd.
I have a named cap with a welted crown. This cap also has a wide chin strap. His service record shows that he had no post war service.
The cap is Canadian made and he would have brought the cap after being commissioned in July 1943 in Canada.
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Have you posted the Canadian cap anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing it.

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Old 06-09-2019, 10:04 PM   #12
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perhaps not something that can be compared, but for british army officer caps, the lack of the piped crown seam is a post war feature and wider chinstraps are seen prior to WWII.

As far as the cap itself, it could be wartime or shortly after.
I bought it on the assumption that it wasn't a guaranteed WWII issue but given the crown and overall condition I figured it was at least, as you said shortly after the war.

At any rate, a neat (semi) modern addition to my British Empire collection
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:49 PM   #13
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Have you posted the Canadian cap anywhere? I'd be interested in seeing it.

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I can't post images. Email sent to you.
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