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Old 09-22-2018, 03:17 PM   #1
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Looking for opinions on this Helmet Leather Carrying Strap? Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 09-23-2018, 04:13 AM   #5
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It is a very beautiful piece ... and very desired. The hardware seems original but the construction in my opinion is recent. The leather is very thick and very wide and of a very light color. The manufacturer's label looks very bad.

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Old 09-23-2018, 05:56 AM   #6
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Something wrong there. If factory made, why do hooks look handmade? If handmade why a factory stamp? The stamp, anyhow, doesn't look good either. IMHO.

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If you look at the threaded areas you can see what I'll call "dust" from years of storage. The hardware appears to be original and you can see some "darkening" on the edges of the leather again from years of storage? The leather is thick and most like why the way the marking is done. If this was thinner leather the manufacturer marking would be more clear and crisp?

It would be nice if someone have an original to compare, but I know that there were different manufacturers and styles that were used.


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It is a very beautiful piece ... and very desired. The hardware seems original but the construction in my opinion is recent. The leather is very thick and very wide and of a very light color. The manufacturer's label looks very bad.

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Hello Carles,

I agree with you about the hardware, it does look handmade. The rounded edges look to be filed down to make more of a rounded edge. Many leather equipment were hand made during the war and have a manufactures marking. What would make this so different not to put one on? I understand the marking and most likely done because of the thickness of the leather?

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Something wrong there. If factory made, why do hooks look handmade? If handmade why a factory stamp? The stamp, anyhow, doesn't look good either. IMHO.

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Old 09-23-2018, 12:41 PM   #9
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I have two of them coming from the vets families. With this background i like yours! For me a good one in very nice condition!

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Hello Carles,

I agree with you about the hardware, it does look handmade. The rounded edges look to be filed down to make more of a rounded edge. Many leather equipment were hand made during the war and have a manufactures marking. What would make this so different not to put one on? I understand the marking and most likely done because of the thickness of the leather?

The truth is I haven't got any, and not an expert in this kind of items. I'm sure many were fieldmade but don't like the stamp, and it's only my opinion, as you requested.



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Old 09-23-2018, 03:42 PM   #11
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I realy don't ike the markings on this one. Looks like one seen often of fake leather gear.
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Hello All!

I have determined that this carrying strap is a reproduction. I was doing some research on the makers marking and I found this auction site with one. The one on the auction is made in Breslau and is EXACTLY like the one I have! How can two manufactures produce the same exact carrying strap? There HAS to be differences! The only conclusion is it a reproduction! The auction strap has a Dachau depot stamp and Breslau is not near Dachau!

https://www.whytes.ie/art/1939-1945-...=15&offset=444

Time to contact the dealer and notify him it is a reproduction and return it for a refund. This is an extremely nice & well made reproduction and would love to keep it at a fraction of the cost I paid for it! It looks great on the helmet too!

Many thanks for your insights and constructive opinions! You learn something new everyday!

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