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Tätigkeitsabzeichen - Tactical Badges
Old 05-22-2009, 01:25 AM   #1
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Default Tätigkeitsabzeichen - Tactical Badges

We've had good run of photos and discussions on the badges worn by the paras in the BW. Lets start on other badges worn by them. Not being an insignia collector I don't have a lot that I can show but here are a couple I couldn't pass up last week. The workmanship was too good not to buy them. Unfortunately, my photos don't really do justice to the combination of the gold wire and thread embroidery.
Here are the tactical badges, on a white background, for a Bordmechaniker and a Bordfunker.

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Well finished on the back as well.
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Bordfunker; three grades - Bundesluftwaffe
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We've had good run of photos and discussions on the badges worn by the paras in the BW. Lets start on other badges worn by them. Not being an insignia collector I don't have a lot that I can show but here are a couple I couldn't pass up last week. The workmanship was too good not to buy them. Unfortunately, my photos don't really do justice to the combination of the gold wire and thread embroidery.
Here are the tactical badges, on a white background, for a Bordmechaniker and a Bordfunker.

Regards,

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Gordon - Very nice indeed. Would say Bundesmarine?

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Old 05-23-2009, 02:52 PM   #5
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TJ,

I would definitely say Bundesmarine.

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Old 05-23-2009, 03:05 PM   #6
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May I give a hint:

The term "Bundesmarine" was abandoned years ago. The Federal German Navy is called "Deutsche Marine" or only "Marine" since 1995.

And the German Air Force never was called "Bundesluftwaffe" officially. It is and was only the "Luftwaffe".

Unfortunately, due to lack of knowledge, even members of the Bundeswehr used (and use) these terms.

As I said, only a hint ...
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RamJet - You are of course correct.

The subject of what to call the service components of the Bundeswehr has proven to be a very controversial subject and has sparked many a lively discussion on the new forum.

Gordon and I tend to focus our collection efforts on early Bundeswehr artifacts and thus refer to the Federal Navy as the Bundesmarine even though it has been made known to us in no uncertain terms that this organization has been called the Deutsche Marine for the past 19 years.

We also know that the term Bundesluftwaffe is a non-standard term, but seek to prevent confusion with the air force of the Third Reich.

Perhaps our forum and its purpose is well known enough that we can call the Bundeswehr services Heer, Luftwaffe, and Marine without causing any confusion (or controversy!)

In any event, thanks for trying to keep us straight.

Seen here is another set of tactical badges; Sicherungspersonal for the Marine.

Has this badge been replaced? How do you qualify for it? What does it symbolize?

Thanks - T.J.
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Another set. This time Heer Flugsicherskontrollpersonal.

Can anyone explain how these are awarded?

Thanks - T.J.
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Can anyone supply the name of this badge? I believe it is now obsolete.

Thanks to RamJet, we now know that this is the Aircraft Technician Badge and is still in use.

Thanks - T.J.
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A complete set of the Luftwaffe Aircraft Technician badges.

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A selection of marine badges. From top to bottom:

Minentauche
Aircraft Technician
Kampfbeobachter (Waffensystemoffizier)
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Field and dress versions of the Fuehrungsdienstpersonal badge.
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The Raketen- und Flugkoerperpersonal badge (top) and Versorgungspersonal badge (bottom). In the Heer, the bottom badge is called the Technisches Personal badge.
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Gordon and I tend to focus our collection efforts on early Bundeswehr artifacts and thus refer to the Federal Navy as the Bundesmarine ...

... and that's completely correct, as the Federal German Navy was invented as "Bundesmarine" in 1955.



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We also know that the term Bundesluftwaffe is a non-standard term, but seek to prevent confusion with the air force of the Third Reich.


I thought so, that's why I said, it's only a hint. As mentioned, a lot of Germans use this term, too.



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Seen here is another set of tactical badges; Sicherungspersonal for the Luftwaffe.

Has this badge been replaced? How do you qualify for it? What does it symbolize?

Thanks - T.J.


It's Sicherungspersonal, but Navy. Marine has the "Tätigkeitsabzeichen" in gold, Luftwaffe in silver. The ring and the symbol (which in this case symbolizes a 20mm Flak gun) is in bronze, silver and gold, depending on the rate of profession. I got mine bronze badge of this kind when I finished ground combat training on basic NCO level ("7er Stufe"). Never attached it to the uniform, I still wear the simple air force wing (forgot to mention: I joined the Luftwaffe in 1979 and I am now a LtCol of the Reserve). Must have reached gold status meanwhile, never asked, as I mainly work in the public affairs/flying branch on my annual reserve exercises. The badge was never replaced, it is still in use. It is more a profession badge than a tactical one.


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Can anyone supply the name of this badge? I believe it is now obsolete.

Thanks - T.J.


Aircraft technician, still in use.
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