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Old 11-18-2019, 12:07 AM   #1
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Seller threw this in with another purchase as we both believe it to be a reproduction. In case I got lucky I thought I'd throw it up here, but I doubt it's original. Appreciate any input. Thanks guys.
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Old 11-18-2019, 03:41 AM   #2
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IMO later to late war version made from an artificial silk with a high content of ersatz in the blend, like a synthetic plastic Celluloid. This produces the shinny silk like appearance of the thread giving it a gloss sheen.

The type of thread used can have an impact on the gaps seen in the material into which the thread has been embroidered. Early war cloth aircrew badges were embroidered from thicker, heavier gauge thread made from cotton blends and high quality Rayon. This produces a fuller, 3-D., Matt appearance to the eagle and wreath with little or no gaps.

By the end of the war they were using thinner, synthetic-ersatz blended thread which produced flatter shinny eagles and wreaths with wider gaps between the detailed features.

Here are some of mine to compare with. I have history/ providence of most of these. You can see an example by the same maker as your one with wreath gaps/ thinner thread on the bottom right hand side. Two on the left in the row above and the whole bottom row is made by that maker. However, the other 6 examples are earlier and thicker thread,

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Old 11-20-2019, 12:00 PM   #3
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Thanks Chris!

Does anyone else care to chime in? It would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-20-2019, 01:02 PM   #4
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Hi Todd,


The only red flag I see is the loose weave to the eagles wings, I like to see it tighter. But the rest of the badge looks OK, including the thread type and cloth appearance.


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Old 11-24-2019, 01:44 AM   #5
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Thanks Tom! Glad I didn't throw it up for sale for $10 as a repop.
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