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Old 10-02-2017, 10:26 PM   #286
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I posted this photo earlier on in this thread but I wanted to share this recent colorization done by French photo colorizing specialist Benoit Vienne. He did an incredible job in getting all the colors right on this complex pattern.

This photograph was taken by master photographer Ernst Baumann in August 1944. It's a nice study of a newly issued Waffen-SS Model 44 "Erbsentarn" (pea pattern) tunic and pants being worn by an SS-Hauptscharführer (SS-Chief platoon leader) of III Battalion, SS Panzer-Grenadier Regiment “Germania."

It is interesting to point out that some of the men who served in this armored infantry battalion practiced a uniform style of tucking in their four pocket tunic inside the waist area of their pants to give a sharper appearance.

August 1944, Eastern Poland
Photographer: Ernst Baumann
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Colorization by Benoit Vienne

For more great colorized photos by Benoit Vienne check out his Facebook page: facebook.com/WorldWarColorisation/
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:29 AM   #287
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Great job, thanks for posting it for our enjoyment
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Old 10-05-2017, 03:40 AM   #288
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Nice colorization!

Here's another variation, it even has a red line in the fabric (look on the second picture). I can recall someone here having the matching tunic to this material but I'm not sure who. But I'm sure Owen should have one

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https://fjm44.com/articles/m44-trous...fen-ss-dot-44/

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Old 10-05-2017, 03:42 AM   #289
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This set has no button holes on the front pockets and has sewn belt loops like M44 trousers. The button holes that are there are handsewn.
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Old 10-05-2017, 01:22 PM   #290
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Now now but many years ago I had a tunic similar but even rougher cloth.
Like crude with lots of small knots in it.
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:44 PM   #291
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The colorized picture is amazing!
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:37 PM   #292
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Excellent information here. This should be a pinned thread. Thanks to all for the contributions
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Hello Remy,

You can add this number

270 M40 great coat, field grey wool

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Old 10-16-2017, 10:46 PM   #294
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Hello Remy,

You can add this number

270 M40 great coat, field grey wool

Thanks Werner! I will add this number to the list.
New updated list coming soon!
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Old 10-19-2017, 03:15 PM   #295
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My databank looks already forward to the update!
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:26 AM   #296
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I found this educative link:

https://www.atthefrontshop.com/category_s/423.htm
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I found interesting that sateen or also called 'polished cotton' tunics were made out of tropical fabrics, surelly stocks not longer needed at the final stages of war.
Interestingly, the sand painted buttons were also used as shown in the Dot tunic sold yesterday in Ratisbon's auction


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I found interesting that sateen or also called 'polished cotton' tunics were made out of tropical fabrics, surelly stocks not longer needed at the final stages of war.
Interestingly, the sand painted buttons were also used as shown in the Dot tunic sold yesterday in Ratisbon's auction
Yeah I have seen the 'polished cotton' on tropical material. It makes a really nice uniform. I think the dot printed on Tropical is a really nice colour. I do have 2 tunics the same as the one showed both SS/BW with sand buttons.
The feel of these are of a higher quality to the HBT.

After the war was lost in Africa they has piles of yellow tropical material so they simple used this to print Dot 44 camo. Nothing going to waste.
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You just missed one very important factor ; most of those camo uniforms ( writing about dot camo jackets/pants ) were made in concetration camps ( like Ravensbruck ) by free forced labour ( inmates ) , or in ghetto factories ( like in Litzmannstadt ghetto ) who often didn't have good sewing skills or simply don't care too much of high quality.

The quality might be high at pre war and early war period, but later in war was much lower as war progress and time was running out.
Much lower is an understatement! As a matter of fact, one of the hallmarks of original camo clothing is the very poor quality of material and construction.
Reproductions are usually far too carefully sewn and out made of faultlessly woven modern fabrics.

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