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Old 11-07-2017, 05:26 AM   #1021
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Thank you Steve and Klaus,
Here are a few more photos of the Parka, I keep in a cardboard box.
I can't begin to describe just how mint this is and it is a real time time capsule, nothing on it has been touched and all the pull cords etc is how it left the factory.
I bought it a vintage clothes collector in Germany !
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:28 AM   #1022
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First time this pocket was opened!
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:14 AM   #1023
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Gentlemen
I thought I would post a photo of the always missing flap eagle, I have two of this type!
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:38 AM   #1024
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Very nice ! Tom
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:16 PM   #1025
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That's a keeper for sure. The usual condition of these is not very good. Beat up, slashed on the back, arm pocket cut off, etc. is the norm. The price of these has shot up in recent years from about EUR 50 not too long ago to EUR 100+ now on eBay.

There's two types of arm badges. The first, and I believe the earlier type, is the type on camouflage background. The later type is the same badge but no backing. I've never been able to pin down the date, but 1971 seems about right to me.

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Old 11-10-2017, 07:38 AM   #1026
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Anyone here collect BGS tankhelmets? I know someone that has one, and pretty much nobody here collects BGS, even less do tank stuff, so I figured I'd see if it can go to someone that appreciates it
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:00 PM   #1027
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Gentlemen,

There has been a lot of discussion in this thread about the BGS arm badge applied to the summer uniform but no reference to what the summer uniform is. I have two "light weight" tunics that look like everyday work dress to me but are these what you are referring to when you talk about "summer uniforms"? First up is a man's tunic. It has bad both sleeve badges removed before released by the BGS.

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Old 11-14-2017, 12:01 PM   #1028
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Men's #1. The front is closed by buttons only.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:02 PM   #1029
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Men's #2,
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Men's #3,
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:07 PM   #1031
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The second tunic is for a woman. The design is basically identical except the material is heavier weight and the front is closed by a zipped and a buttoned flap over the zipper.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:08 PM   #1032
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Woman's #1,
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:33 PM   #1033
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Hi Gordon,

What you have there is a post 1975 "Moosgrün" Einsatzanzug which was produced into the 1980s IIRC. First example I've seen is dated 1975 and it replaced the Sumpftarn uniform. As with the previous Sumpftarn and blue-gray uniforms, the one you have was worn for things such as border patrolling, search and rescue, riot control, and other similar field duties.

The BUNDESGRENZSCHUTZ arc was added somewhere around 1970, so for sure these uniforms always had the arc on it standard.

There are two versions of this particular form of Einsatzanzug (or at least the jacket). The first is similar to the one you have, but no zipper for the front and no arm pocket. I seem to remember there is a third version, though I could be wrong about that.

Photos show that the BGS member wore combat boots, Einsatzanzug trousers, and standard beige shirt (the necktie is not worn). Over the shirt was worn either the jacket (like yours) or a British style knit sweater of the same color. For very cold conditions there is a parka nearly identical to the Sumpftarn parka it replaced (though obviously in the same Moosgrün color).

On the member's head was either a beret or riot helmet (Röhmer type). For sure the M43 and Schiffchen in Moosgrün were made in large numbers, but I think they were worn with the standard Dienstanzug. Though I'm just guessing here.

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BTW, putting the eagle badge back on the arm pocket is a royal pain in the Hintern! You have to remove the stitching of the pocket along the top and side opposite the zipper. You can leave it attached at the bottom. After putting the badge on you then have to carefully stitch it back on. I've done it a couple of times and it was no less annoying the second or third time as it was the first

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Old 11-14-2017, 04:29 PM   #1035
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Steve,

Thanks for the info. I was sure that I had four of these tunics, all slightly different, but could't find the other two. That didn't surprise me as I am always finding new things, and loosing them again, when I "dive" into the rooms I keep my collection in. The sleeve pockets will stay as they are. Too much like work to me to find the patches and then sew them on.

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