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SS Officer belt buckle for review!
Old 01-12-2020, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default SS Officer belt buckle for review!

SS Officer belt buckle for review!
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:46 PM   #2
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To the bone...........................
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:49 PM   #3
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Bad news. Stay away.

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Old 01-13-2020, 04:17 AM   #4
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Please say why it is «bad news». Could this be a well worn zinc belt buckle? Or is it s clear fake? If those who comment can compare with a picture and make a Circle where there is something strange.

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Old 01-13-2020, 04:31 AM   #5
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Look at the details on the SS officer buckle I posted now
And I am not sure this is original.
The one you have posted has very bad details.
Easy to spot as a fake.

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Old 01-13-2020, 08:05 AM   #6
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Please say why it is «bad news». Could this be a well worn zinc belt buckle? Or is it s clear fake? If those who comment can compare with a picture and make a Circle where there is something strange.

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Clear and well known fake. If you were collecting SS buckles you would not have even posted that fantasy piece.
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Thank you very much for the feedback, but....
Old 01-13-2020, 12:52 PM   #7
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Default Thank you very much for the feedback, but....

Can you please specify what is wrong and add a picture of a «good» one? I m searching all serious WW II dealers and I cannot see any difference from what they are selling as «originals» and this one.

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Old 01-13-2020, 02:03 PM   #8
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Original aluminum SS buckles are actually made of aluminum. Also, original aluminum SS officer's buckles by Overhoff, (as well as most of the fakes), will have 4 distinct markings. This one has about 2 and 1/2. As far as castings go, this is about as bad as you can get, imo.

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Three More Buckles For Review...
Old 01-14-2020, 01:58 PM   #9
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Default Three More Buckles For Review...

Uh-oh!

Are these three unfinished buckles of the same genre? To my tired old eyes, these three buckles look very similar (in terms of material and construction) to the one posted for review. I was of the opinion that my three examples were original, but now I am starting to doubt...

The two close-ups show the buckle @ upper-left.

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Old 01-14-2020, 02:20 PM   #10
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These zinc buckles are from a completely different maker and materials. Nothing in common with the above fake.

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Old 01-14-2020, 03:09 PM   #11
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Are these three unfinished buckles
Those are not unfinished buckles but broken Emil Jüttner buckles. Worst case they are broken fake Emil Jüttner buckles. But you will know that only if you find the other broken / gone part.
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Broken Not Unfinished
Old 01-14-2020, 03:42 PM   #12
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When I first obtained these three broken buckles, there was only one loose keeper/catch part - see images below. Is it possible to make a determination of originality (of the three zinc buckles) now? Or do we need weight, dimensions, etc. ?

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Those are not unfinished buckles but broken Emil Jüttner buckles. Worst case they are broken fake Emil Jüttner buckles. But you will know that only if you find the other broken / gone part.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:03 PM   #13
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The one having this part was/is original. For the remaining two you will probably never know.
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:08 PM   #14
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That is pretty nice that you have the reverse fitting of one. I have had a few of the broken Juttner buckle fronts in the past. I suspect the GI's pulled them off the belts quickly in hope of getting a souvenir and the front just came off as the crimp was not that strong. JP makes a good point in that a faker could make a casting of a real piece but you could tell.

As an added note, the buckles posted by Greg ARE finished, you will see that the crimps on the reverse were pressed over the reverse fitting however the fitting popped out, so to call them unfinished would be wrong. It would be interesting to see what the blob of base zinc metal looked like before crimping.
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