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Old 06-18-2019, 09:28 AM   #16
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Wow, touched a nerve there did I?

I'm well aware of Caveat Emptor but still don't like to see fellow collectors being screwed - and the fact that this item was posted here on the WAF for opinions only two months ago by someone who has now conveniently forgotten where those images came from - STINKS.

Your aggressive attitude and the fact that you appear to think that this is an acceptable state of affairs speaks volumes.

It is your aggressive tone that I find offensive. You're damn right it touched a nerve.

In another post on June 14th regarding this medal, you asked long-time member TPAlexander "Where did you get this [photo of the medal] please?" Tim promptly responded, "I think it was an auction website. It's been so long, I really don't remember."

Did you read his answer? He doesn't remember. It is totally plausible that a collector who peruses countless online militaria auctions and dealer websites every month (like the majority of members here) cannot remember exactly where he saw something. I sure as hell would not have been able to recall these details from two months ago.

Your interrogation of Tim should have ceased after he announced "I really don't remember." Unfortunately, you continue by berating him with rhetoric: " It was only two months ago?? I would have thought that an award as hard to come by as a 40 yr Long Service cross (albeit with an incorrect wreath) would have stuck in your mind?"

So in other words, Tim's ability to remember does not quite live-up to your expectations or your standards... that somehow, he is less than adequate in your eyes for not remembering where he saw this medal back in March.

You then escalate from disparaging to accusatory: " ...the fact that this item was posted here on the WAF for opinions only two months ago by someone who has now conveniently forgotten where those images came from - STINKS."

"CONVENIENTLY FORGOTTEN" is a sarcastic way of implying that Tim is deliberately concealing information. Any reasonable person would conclude that you have implicated him - i.e. indirectly accused him openly - of somehow being involved in deception and fraud. AND ALL THIS without one shred of hard evidence to back it up.

Frankly, I fail to understand why the Moderators haven't reprimanded you for publicly disparaging and maligning another member.

Hopefully Seigfried's behavior as the self-styled, self-appointed Grand Inquisitor of the Forum will not discourage other forum members from posting photos of items from auction websites for evaluation.



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Old 06-18-2019, 10:13 AM   #17
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Oh my, we really ARE in a tiz ! lol


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Old 06-18-2019, 10:25 AM   #18
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A lot of hoo haa over a fake Souval.

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Old 06-18-2019, 11:03 AM   #19
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Oh my, we really ARE in a tiz ! lol. Ian
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A lot of hoo haa over a fake Souval. Chet
Okay Chet and Ian... let's see how you would react in a similar situation.

You post a photo of an item you find on an auction's website. The experts determine it's a fake. You thank everybody and move on.

Two months later, another member buys this fake at a podunk country auction. Along comes Seigfried and demands to know where the original photo came from. You honestly can't remember since it was 2 months ago and state that candidly. Seigfried then proceeds to call into question whether or not you really can't remember or simply choose not to remember, and then implies that you are somehow complicit in a fraud.

This wouldn't sit well with most people I know. Plus, it really has nothing to do with a Souval fake.



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Ok, if you want to vent to ahead and knock yourself out.

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Ok, if you want to vent to ahead and knock yourself out.

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Old 06-18-2019, 02:00 PM   #22
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It is your aggressive tone that I find offensive. You're damn right it touched a nerve.
What an epic rant! What do you do for an encore? Eat the carpet!? Are you TPs mouthpiece or something?

Listen son, you are embarrassing yourself so calm down, take a deep breath and put your dummy back in before you give yourself a brain haemorrhage
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