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Old 03-20-2017, 01:09 PM   #1
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Default Metal Fender Pennant

I posted this over in the SS forum, but was told members here may like to see it.
Was told it meant:
"1st Battalion of the 12th Standarte (regiment) Niedersachsen."

What did that unit do? Were they SS?
Thanks

I should add I don't know anything about metal pennants or flags so any information is much appreciated.






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Old 03-20-2017, 02:10 PM   #2
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Sorry I did not specify in my first response but it
Certainly SS. Others on here should know a lot more
About these than I and can fill you in, but if
I am correct in my initial Id this is from the later 1930s most likely and
Would have been used by the commander or command staff of the
1st BN of the 12th Standarte Allgemeine SS or general SS.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:11 PM   #3
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Sorry I did not specify in my first response but it
Certainly SS. Others on here should know a lot more
About these than I and can fill you in, but if
I am correct in my initial Id this is from the later 1930s most likely and
Would have been used by the commander or command staff of the
1st BN of the 12th Standarte Allgemeine SS or general SS.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:15 PM   #4
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Thanks Phil, great information. Now I've got it.
The other post is getting a little hard to see the forest for the trees.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:37 PM   #5
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The RZM code on the pole clamp is correct for these SS and NSKK fender pennants.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:49 PM   #6
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I have this type NSKK auto pennant and I have seen a similar SS auto pennant, both with same RZM code. Bill Shea has an NSKK pennant on his site, complete with pole and mounting base. They have the standard NSKK eagle and the standard SS runes in a circle. However, I have never seen this style with the unit, eagle and totenkopf markings.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:50 PM   #7
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looks original to me. i have not seen one like this before . i have nskk metal fender flad with same rzm code..rare ss example in my opinion.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:16 PM   #8
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phild,
Could the skull mean this is an SS-TV pennant? A 12th TK standarte did exist.
Here is a page from the SS price list from 1938 listing metal pennants.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:37 PM   #9
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phild,
Could the skull mean this is an SS-TV pennant? A 12th TK standarte did exist.
Here is a page from the SS price list from 1938 listing metal pennants.
Fred
You sort of read my mind. I was thinking the same thing when I
Wrote the response, but was not sure of the TV standarten numbering prior to 40/41 timeframe. I think you are correct and it makes a lot more sense given where this material was taken
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:54 PM   #10
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phild,
Could the skull mean this is an SS-TV pennant? A 12th TK standarte did exist.
Here is a page from the SS price list from 1938 listing metal pennants.
Fred
Might I ask what publication this is? Seems very interesting/handy.
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Old 03-21-2017, 03:42 PM   #11
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Looks like an English translation/reprint of this book:

http://www.usmbooks.com/SS_uniform_price_list.html
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:10 PM   #12
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X how about these folks..Billbert:
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Sydney,
It's a booklet that was published in 1970.
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Might I ask what publication this is? Seems very interesting/handy.
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Sydney,
It's a booklet that was published in 1970.
Very cool. Thank you for posting that.
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:55 PM   #15
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Im not a fan of this metal pennant at all.
I have seen SS metal car pennants
And the LAH metal pennants.
And the staff car pennants, with the designations that i have seen
Have all been cloth.
Ill agree that the rzm number and tabs are correct
But the rivets appear to be replaced
And metal is easier to reproduce.
Are there any known pics of metal pennant to compare this one too
Or am
I missing something??
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