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Old 08-02-2017, 09:22 AM   #61
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Both clocks look very nice to me but Bob is correct, let's wait for Florian for the final blessing.

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Old 08-04-2017, 12:07 AM   #62
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I look forward to hearing Florians view.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:23 AM   #63
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No fake. Original. Zinc dial with an eagle of the third generation. All hands original too (but painted). Many of them have no number/N on the right - probably used in KM administration headquarters on land. I will mention this in my book.

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About my clock I think he just wrote...
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:49 AM   #64
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9759 N: Very known clock to me. I have listed this one in my archive already. Although the additional "77" on the dial is unusual compared to all the others I think it is original. Bob is right about the sweep hand (this is a very well done probably hand made reproduction). This clock has an eagle of the second eagle generation on a brass dial. Nice original black painted case too...
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:48 PM   #65
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Thanks, what is the significance of the number 77 and also what would be a fair market value of this clock.

It is in fine working order and keeps good time.
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Old 08-09-2017, 05:28 AM   #66
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I think I should reply to the question regarding the hand, all hands on this clock are 100% original, you are wrong.
The 77 has been engraved for a reason, when this clock was being restored
I noticed all the hands had been inscribed on their backs with a 77, matching the dial plate. Also another clock exhists ex Florians archives with a similar engraved no. Price is determined by the market, you get what you pay for, and if you are lucky a clock which has been professionally restored, and is unique, you must pay more if you want something special.
The most important aspect of the 77 clock is that it was used in a radio room
and is the only example extant with this provenance.
As such its a very very rare timepiece, which drew me to it. So its value is in my opinion well above the beat up run of the mill wall hangers.
Its also featured in Ulrics book.
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Old 07-15-2018, 03:10 PM   #67
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Gentlemen.

With the War and Peace Revival about to start in the UK, now is a good time to remind you of the dangers of buying Kriegsmarine and Kaiserliche Marine Clocks on sale there and indeed at Ardingly and Newark.

The UK’s most active faker of these clocks will be there as usual displaying a number of clocks which will enable you to recognise him.

He sells clocks which range from fake dials on de-nazified clocks, to clocks which are complete fakes, including the cases. These are well executed fakes designed to deceive and defraud.

All numbers should match the serial number on the back of the case, including the movement. If someone tells you the movements get changed, he’s not telling you the truth

Know your eagles, here is one of his fakes and this thread contains excellent images of the correct ones so read it carefully.

Never pay cash. If he won’t take a card, give you his contact details, tells you he doesn’t have a land line telephone or a computer and speaks with a strong Scottish accent, walk away.

If you do decide to buy a clock at the show, buy it from a dealer you know or one who will take a card so you have some security. Even other dealers at the show may have been taken in by his clocks which also appear on eBay and other websites.

Tell your friends!
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:22 AM   #69
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Thanks for the heads up
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My pleasure - it's a minefield out there!
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