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Old 11-11-2012, 01:20 PM   #1
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This is one of the best captured flag photographs I've seen. Pictured is the flag for the 42nd Polish Infantry Regiment.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:29 PM   #2
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This is one of the best captured flag photographs I've seen.
Pictured is the flag for the 42nd Polish Infantry Regiment.
Hello Beersheba4thLH:
Many of the German captured enemy unit flags
ended up in the Berlin Museum during WW2.
When Berlin fell the flags went to Moscow, and
I believe a number were returned to the Poles.

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(below) captured flags in Berlin Museum display.
Includes several Polish & French, later Soviet too.

(below) same photo of captured Polish 42nd flag, seen online...
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:16 PM   #3
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...one of the best captured flag photographs I've seen...
It looks better without all the star mess.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:26 PM   #4
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Nice captured flag and standarte photos. At first I thought the overlaid stars denoted points of interest rather then say copyright infringement.

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:44 AM   #5
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:04 PM   #6
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OFW,

Curious on the original flag you posted if its whereabout are known and what the value would be "as seen" in the photo? Also, I have seen some period photos lately of a German 4X4 standart that have specific unit designation by the corners. Do you know about these? Have pictures of?
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:53 PM   #7
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OFW,
Curious on the original flag you posted if its whereabout
are known and what the value would be "as seen" in the
photo? Also, I have seen some period photos lately of a
German 4X4 standart that have specific unit designation
by the corners. Do you know about these? Have pictures of?
Hello Shawn Bern:
I've not yet confirmed (for myself) that the 1939 German
captured Polish 42nd Infantry flag (post #1) was returned
by the Soviets in 1945. Maybe another WAF member has
visited the current Polish Military Museum, and might have
seen it on display there? As for your "German 4x4 standart"
question, sounds like you are talking about the green Heer
pattern flag with the numbers 27 in two corners, the flag
of the III battalion of German Infantry Regiment 92, which
held the title “Jägerbataillon Finland”. I saw a photo of
this flag in the 1970's attributed to a woman named Karen
in the USA. Since then other examples seem to exist too,
one found by the British after WW2 in Mecklenburg-Vorpom-
mern (northern Germany) and by mistake was associated
with a battallion of the Deutsch-Arabischen Legion (german-
arabic legion), so it was in 1965 oddly sent to Egypt, where
I understand it is still resides in a museum at El Alamein.

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(below) the green German Infantry Regiment 92 flag(s).

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Old 12-09-2012, 03:22 PM   #8
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...captured flag photographs I've seen...
Here is one of my favorites, captured in
the 1940 Battle of France. Back in the 70's
I contacted the French 145th Regiment
Museum, they said they never got it back.

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:48 PM   #9
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Wondering if this one was ever recovered ???
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:33 PM   #10
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More from Paris - French captured flags
in the Les Invalides Chapel. Would be
nice to have a list of these, and photos
of each with their capture history too.

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Polish unit flag value ???
Old 12-11-2012, 02:43 PM   #11
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OFW...what the value would be "as seen" in the photo? ...
Shawn:
Value of a flag is always subjective IMO.
Depends who is selling, and who is buying,
and the venue too.

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(below) Recently for sale...
WW2 Polish Regimental flag, First Infantry Division,
Kosciuszko Regiment No. 1.

Auction 38 Lot no. 912 on 17-18 November 2012
http://www.czernys.com
Piazza V. Veneto, 13 - 19, Sarzana
19038 Italy
Description:

"A very rare regimental flag of the First Infantry Division of
the Kosciuszko Regiment No. 1 dating: mid-20th Century
provenance: Poland Square, white silk flag with red cross,
at the centre of one side the effigy of a bust with the Order
of "VIRTUTI MILITARI" surmounted by the writing "WOLNOSC
I WARZA", at each arm of the cross marked "1 DP" among oak
branches; on the other side the effigy of the Polish eagle enclosed
in a crown of laurel surmounted by the writing "HONOR I OJCZYZNA",
the arms of the cross en suite; gilt fringes on three sides; assembled
on a wooden haft (only at the upper part) with brass tip in the shape
of a Polish eagle resting on a rectangle, with the writing "1 Dywinja
Piechoty im Tadeusza Kosciuszki". The Polish 1st Kosciuszko was an
infantry division in the Soviet-organized Polish armed forces formed
in 1943. The division operated from the Battle of Lenino (October
12-13, 1943) to the Battle of Berlin (April and May 1945) together
with the Red Army. dimensions: dimensions 110 x 100 cm."

Estimate: €20,000 - €25,000 <--- For an original
************************
PS/ Auction update: "On a side of the flag is an inscription on red
ground, in Polish, saying that the flag is an official copy made in 1977.
"
unsold 12000.00 € to 15000.00 € <--- Museum quality repro.

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Old 12-12-2012, 02:02 PM   #12
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Some WW2 captured Italian examples, military
version with crown, civil version without crown.
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(below) with crown, USCG & amphibious (lower right patch) soldiers on land.

(below) without crown, captured Sept 10-43 by US soldiers, 45th Inf Div.
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:44 AM   #13
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An interesting WW2 press release photo
showing a Russian captured Japanese
banner.

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(below) from OFW WAF t=604650, translated there as
Manchuria Harvesting Competition Winner in the name
of the Minister Of Agriculture (Huang Fu-qün).
Like many
German captured Russian flags, not military but farming.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:42 AM   #14
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Really stunning pictures!
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:53 AM   #15
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