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Old 04-22-2019, 06:54 AM   #1
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As I said before, not my area of interest. Can I believe it?, thanks for your time
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:09 AM   #3
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Bad one. Newer Janke production
 

Old 04-23-2019, 12:36 AM   #4
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Bad one. Newer Janke production
Is Skull and Eagle are also bad
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Old 04-23-2019, 01:35 AM   #5
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Same maker like the ss Nco visor in this Thread. (But some one deleted the pictures)
Maker is Ernst Müller.

https://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...d.php?t=467957

For me Not a Janke But Highly likely a Frankenstein.

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Ich versichere, daß die von mir gezeigten zeitgeschichtlichen und militärhistorischen Gegenstände aus der Zeit 33-45 nur zu Zwecken der staatsbürgerlichen Aufklärung, der Abwehr verfassungswidriger, verfassungsfeindlicher Bestrebungen,Identitätsbestimmung, Originalitätsbestimmung gezeigt werden.
 

Old 04-23-2019, 02:03 AM   #6
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Same maker like the ss Nco visor in this Thread. (But some one deleted the pictures)
Maker is Ernst Müller.

https://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...d.php?t=467957

For me Not a Janke But Highly likely a Frankenstein.

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Ich versichere, daß die von mir gezeigten zeitgeschichtlichen und militärhistorischen Gegenstände aus der Zeit 33-45 nur zu Zwecken der staatsbürgerlichen Aufklärung, der Abwehr verfassungswidriger, verfassungsfeindlicher Bestrebungen,Identitätsbestimmung, Originalitätsbestimmung gezeigt werden.

Hi
Thank you for the answer, but without the comparison photos, this opinion does not help much
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:55 AM   #7
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Is Skull and Eagle are also bad
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From those shots the skull is a cast Zimmermann.


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Old 04-23-2019, 06:00 AM   #8
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From those shots the skull is a cast Zimmermann.


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Yes it's true : ) I's Zimmermann CupAl. But @Graham G. spoke so clearly, that I wanted to check how much I can trust him.
What is your opinion about Visor cap?
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:58 AM   #9
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Hallo Jacek

In my opinion this visor has good chances.

Lining and logo surely original.

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Old 04-23-2019, 07:07 AM   #10
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That said, you have to do the usual checks of the lining seams because I see some empty holes in the shot no. 2/3 and this could mean that the lining has been reassembled. I don't see sweatband and outer band re-stitching and that's a good sign. But at the same time I don't see any hoverang. It would be interesting that Graham shows us the links to this new production of Janke because I don't remember falsifications of the Ernst Muller logo.

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So I think that I can sleep peacefully. Thx. very appreciated
KR
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Good afternoon Jacek, I lack the knowledge to comment on the cap itself. There are many here whose opinions I would trust on headgear.


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Good afternoon Jacek, I lack the knowledge to comment on the cap itself. There are many here whose opinions I would trust on headgear.


Cheers, Ian.
Hi Ian
you've helped me anyway : ) thx.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:32 AM   #14
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With the better photos, it isn't a Janke cap at all. Materials are very different- the first pics definitely showed the tell-tale Janke poly-tricot material and construction. To me still a franky with original lining, but we will see what others say
 

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Sorry, but it is a Frankenstein. Lining is original, and it is a re-banded WH cap.
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