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Old 12-05-2016, 04:38 PM   #61
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The tank is not that big. It is not so necessary to change the bolt but the barrel, and where were the barrels kept? Just by the radio operator, of not mistaken.

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Old 11-28-2018, 04:34 AM   #62
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I just wanted to comment on the MG Werkzeug kits that I think the round hole where you have put the booster cone is intended for rubber muzzle caps. I cannot say this for sure, but I think the muzzle caps where more likely to be included than the booster cone. If you by any chance have documentation on the contents, I would love to see it.
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:41 AM   #63
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Thanks Folke for your opinion. I hadn't thought about rubber muzzle caps. I had no literature about it when I started studying these boxes so I just compared available items related to MG34s which could fit in the spaces. Booster cone seemed a good option and would fit well, so I decided to place one there. Anyhow, I have just tried to fit some rubber caps...but they don't fit well and are difficult to pull out. Perhaps the dimensions of the hole are not accurate, not sure. I believe some collector provided the right dimension, but that was some years ago.

In some pics in the thread you can see I also placed a combo tool between the RG34 and the oilers and wooden trapezoid (pic #1). It is something I thought could fit and would also go in a MG gunner's pouch, so logical to have in a MG Werkzeug box. That also goes for the barrel pad you can see in some other pic, placed over the RG34, oiler and wooden trapezoid. It just fits and looks logical to keep one in the box!

Another question about Panzer MG34 boxes and accesories would be where the AA sight clamp and AA sight were kept. I do have some literature about that, but it is not clear.

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Old 12-04-2018, 06:03 PM   #64
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What I'll never understand why the need for two spanners in the lid section, totally unnecessary to me!
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:43 AM   #65
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Neither do I but perhaps you need them to set the MG in the KB cradle, don't know. Does any one have a Kugelblende around? Perhaps someone been inside a German tank?

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Old 09-16-2019, 05:31 PM   #66
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Hello, Carles.

Please advice how to write the "MG Werkzeug" string on the box?
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...1&d=1393865082
It can't be completely done with stencil like this:
https://www.dovetailsvintage.co.uk/v...asurements.jpg
because e and g letters contain closed loops.

Is it good idea to draw with stencil then remove stencil remains by hand?
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Old 09-19-2019, 02:48 PM   #67
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I will try to measure the letters and I'll come back. Give me acouple of days.

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Old 09-19-2019, 05:49 PM   #68
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I'm sorry, my English is poor so I suppose you hadn't understand me properly.

Im asking not about the letters size but about the method of the painting. I am working on the stencil for the box to write "MG Werkzeug".
The problem is "e" and "g" letters. How to paint them without the breaking of the closed loop in these letters?
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:19 AM   #69
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Oh! You have to cut a little piece and place it in the centre.

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When I do stencilling I leave a little paper bridge to hold the centre of the letter in place then when I remove the stencil I'll hand paint the gap left over to complete the letter in full.
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I imagine the stencil would be made of a metal sheet. They would just put the little metal roundel where it should make the O and remove it later. You can see in some boxes that the roundel moved a bit and the central part is not too centered.


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What I'll never understand why the need for two spanners in the lid section, totally unnecessary to me!
In short, I would suggest carbon build up.

Front end is three componants, flash hider booster chamber, booster cone, gas port assy. Both front and rear have the same size flats.

Ground gunner can quickly change out the complete assy with one spanner using the spare set in the soaker can. He is also not usually completely alone and can share ground gunners set with another gunner.

Afv is more likely to operate the gun for a prolonged period of time and have a greater build up of carbon on the front end. Try getting those apart with one spanner. Afv in the field can also be very spread apart for tactical anti air reasons so why not give the guys an extra spanner at very small cost.

Just my thoughts but I have very little doubt that it was 2 spanners for good reason.

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That would basically the reason. Ground gunners, when cleaning their weapons, would usually gather and do the work in a group, with their assistants also. They would have or combine their cleaning sets. A tank could be stationed apart from other tanks and cleanig would have to be done alone, so not always a chance of combining tools with other tank gunners. I believe each tanks also had an E box with spares...but the soaker can would be empty, without a replacement flashhider, according to manual, so an extra cone was available in the MG Werkzeug box.

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Old 09-21-2019, 12:00 PM   #74
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Let me ask 2 more questions.

1. What is the thickness of the wooden parts of the box' cover? Is it the same as MG wrench or not?
2. What is the construction under the steel strip? I suppose there should be the wooden part with thickness the same as another wooden parts have. But what is it's shape and size?

Thank you for any help.

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Old 09-22-2019, 12:11 PM   #75
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The wooden parts are about as thick as the MG13 spanners, in plywood. Under the strap there is a metal rod stamped to the cover on one side and to the strap on the other. If you need a set of parts for a box I can produce them according to the right specs. As you can see in the thread, I have produced parts and restored about 20 MG Werkzeug boxes, from Russia to the USA, for private collectors to museums and associations that restore German panzer vehicles.

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