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Bayonet... Is this a force-matched reissue?
Old 05-15-2019, 12:58 PM   #1
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Default Bayonet... Is this a force-matched reissue?

Thought this was a bit strange...

original number on the blade has been crossed out with four zeros... And renumbered.

The scabbard which is not the correct type... Has a matching number.

This came attached to an original late war bayonet frog... The simplified type.

Thoughts on this?

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Old 05-15-2019, 02:15 PM   #2
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IMO German k98 bayonet reworked by Spain.


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Old 05-16-2019, 01:30 AM   #3
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Question is what for other stamping is there?, the red bakelite S84/98 are not typical to see in Spain, possible this could be too a postwar refurbishment and reserialing, the scabbard looks like spanish M1943 or its a WW1 period piece? b.r.Andy
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:17 AM   #4
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I am 99% sure this is not Spanish...

The scabbard is WW1...and as mentioned, the from attached is the late-war K98 frog (rare simplified type)...I have not seen those frogs or scabbards being used by Spain...

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Old 05-16-2019, 09:04 AM   #5
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Could You provide more info about the bayonet? details of other stamps, waa proofs ??, the adding of late war period frog means not much, could be added later, the blueing on blade looks heavy dark which is not typical for germans, with the red plastic it would means a late piece, but the blade looks like polished so early piece, the scabbard when german WW1 should have a inspector acceptance on ball finial or mouth area, anyway it was reserialed with new serials on both parts to made a matching piece. b.r.Andy
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:56 AM   #6
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Of the same general opinion as Andy, the red grips IMO being a major factor suggesting postwar. Also of the opinion that more pictures/information could help in making a better determination. FP
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:29 AM   #7
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Here are some more pics
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Old 05-17-2019, 01:34 AM   #8
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The bayonet pictures are not clear enough to see any stamps on opposite ricasso or on WaA on pommel, anyway it looks like a reblueing job and the scabbard is a german WW1 piece. You could add details of marking by describing the details, no need add pictures, the press button is mostly replacement.b.r.Andy
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Old 05-17-2019, 09:37 PM   #9
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Are there any maker marks on the other side of the ricasso? Certainly from the high level of finish the bayonet alone appears to have been made before 1943. The over stamping of the serial number suggests post WW2 re-issue.
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:43 PM   #10
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The bluing on the blade looks perfect where the second set of numbers were added. This may be a dumb question, but would stamping numbers on a blade mar the bluing in that area? Could it have been re-blued after the second numbers were applied?
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:51 PM   #11
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It is a 39 E. PACK.

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Old 05-18-2019, 01:40 PM   #12
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Offcource its reblued,most real postwar, the 39 Pack should have dark plastic grips, the press button is correct there. b.r.Andy
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