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Old 10-18-2015, 01:01 PM   #61
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Great Pics.
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Old 10-18-2015, 01:24 PM   #62
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Thats not me (but a SS-KC-holder) - I was born 7 years after those pics were taken...
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Old 10-19-2015, 07:22 PM   #63
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Left behind due to lack of fuel

There is no penetration in this tank.

The frontal damage is from testing with bazooka

Tiger 213 was knocked out fighting against Sherman tanks of U.S. 3rd Armored Division's TF McGeorge on 22 Dec 1944. TF McGeorge was attacking La Gleize from the east, and Tiger 213 was situated in the fields of the Werimont Farm just southeast of the village. A lucky hit by one of the Shermans blew off the front 1/3 of the tank's gun, and the crew abandoned their knocked out tank.

When American units were helping to clear the wrecked tanks after the battle, the proprietress of a local inn persuaded them to leave 213 in the town square in exchange for a bottle of cognac. It stood near the town civic building for several years, and in 1951 the Belgian Army moved it to a better display area, where it is now. The gun tube was put back to the correct length by welding a relic Panther barrel in place.

The shot damage to 213's armor probably did not happen during the fighting, but later on when U.S. tankers moving through the area fired at the tank from closer range to see what effect their shots would have.

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Old 10-20-2015, 01:42 AM   #64
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That nice looking panther tank is just around the corner of my house. There is lot of discussion going on at the moment: some people want to repaint the tank and restore it in its original forms.
And news for you: There is going to be built a museum in Grandmenil. I dont know all the details, but the museum will be build behing the memorials, on the other side of the tank.
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:08 AM   #65
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That nice looking panther tank is just around the corner of my house. There is lot of discussion going on at the moment: some people want to repaint the tank and restore it in its original forms.
And news for you: There is going to be built a museum in Grandmenil. I dont know all the details, but the museum will be build behing the memorials, on the other side of the tank.
Thanks for letting us know, that the Panther will be saved before it rusts away, from the inside out!
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:12 PM   #66
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That nice looking panther tank is just around the corner of my house. There is lot of discussion going on at the moment: some people want to repaint the tank and restore it in its original forms.
And news for you: There is going to be built a museum in Grandmenil. I dont know all the details, but the museum will be build behing the memorials, on the other side of the tank.
Great. Will check it out when it gets there.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:59 PM   #67
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Old thread, but recently found this photo I took, I think in 1992, my Peugeot 405 parked alongside for a comparison .
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Old 12-12-2016, 10:59 AM   #69
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Ahhhh, the pink panther does exist......or did.
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This Panther is an Ausf G from the 116 "Windhund" Panzerdivision. This one crashed in the river Ourthe at Houffalize. The date is unknown but there are 3 theories

- Crashed in the river Ourthe on December 19 1944, 3 days after the start of the German attack
- The tank stood on the bridge over the river Ourthe on December 26 1944 and crashed into the river after an American bombardment
- Crashed into the river Ourthe on January 15 1945 a day before the counterattack of the 2nd and 9th US Armored Divisions

For sure is that the tank was recovered by the Belgian Army in 1948

3 names have been on the tank for years and it is believed they were 3 of the 5 crew members:

- Arne Kreutz
- Georg Mussbach
- Ewald Lochle
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Some pictures from 31 years ago. Not sure now as it was a long time ago but I know I took some pictures of the interior and they could be these. No doubt an expert will put me right. I think the last pis might be the Tiger at Le Gleize. Regards David.
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:46 PM   #74
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Sad to see this Das Reich tank just rusting away it needs to be in a Museum.
Not many Original German tanks left in the world.
It been there long enough they could replace the tank with a picture or something and get it in a local museum.
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:33 PM   #75
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