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Gordon Gollob diamonds A-Piece for sale :
Old 09-27-2019, 12:38 PM   #1
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Default Gordon Gollob diamonds A-Piece for sale :

At the german dealer website the Gordon Gollob diamonds A-piece for sale:

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/04/...b__352004.html

The complete estate was sold about more than 30 years ago
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Old 09-27-2019, 01:19 PM   #2
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Great great piece.
If I would take a guess, the price will be 150k+
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Diamonds Gollob
Old 09-27-2019, 01:44 PM   #3
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150 K would be a very good price, but rather 350 - 500 K.
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:03 PM   #4
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The Mölders piece i think was sold under 150K. Hermann Historica auction.

Mölders was a legend.
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Mölders / Gollob
Old 09-27-2019, 04:02 PM   #5
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Mölders pieks was sold for 230 K +
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:46 PM   #6
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Mölders pieks was sold for 230 K +
All things being equal, I rather have Molder's than Gollob's.
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Old 09-28-2019, 09:08 AM   #7
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Here are the Weitze photos referred to in the opening post.

That's the very same piece that was for auction at Hermann Historica in April, discussed here:
https://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/....php?t=1001591

In the HH auction the piece had no attribution to Gollob, although Sepp previously posted the same one as being Gollob's piece (with no details where the info came from). Sepp had also posted a couple of other different pieces as attributed to Gollob so it gets very confusing.

Furthermore, Dietrich photographed the same piece back in 2006 when it was in the collection of Wolfe-Hardin, at which time it was loosely attributed to Adolf Galland.

I guess the bottom line is you have accept any attribution for this piece with a grain of salt unless more information is forthcoming.

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Old 09-28-2019, 09:15 AM   #8
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Just to pull these references together, here's Sepp's post in 2016 labelling the same piece from the opening post as being "Gordon Gollob's 1st pattern Diamonds, in silver":
http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...93#post7418393

The image posted there (attached here as well) is actually a photo of page 296 in Dietrich's 2007 book "The Knights Cross of the Iron Cross" where it is "attributed to Adolf Galland".

So the question is, was there some new evidence that appeared between 2007 and 2016 to attribute this piece to Gollob instead of Galland -- and if so why didn't Hermann Historica think it worth mentioning in the April 2019 auction?

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Old 09-28-2019, 09:23 AM   #9
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And here's a completely different "1st type" diamonds posted by Sepp in 2013 as "Gollob's diamonds".
https://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/...03#post5743703
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Old 09-28-2019, 09:33 AM   #10
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When I scanned and measured the set in 2006 it was in the possession of S&H and I was told it was attributed to Galland and that is what I mentioned in the book. I admit that this was not very important to me since I concentrate on originality not on attribution. It is an early and original piece, that can be said without any doubt. Whether Galland or Gollob, who knows?
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Old 09-28-2019, 09:37 AM   #11
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And here's a completely different "1st type" diamonds posted by Sepp in 2013 as "Gollob's diamonds".
https://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/...03#post5743703
That one is a fake IMHO!
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And to add to the confusion, another of Sepp's posts, "Photo taken in 1970 of Gordon Gollob's A type 2nd Pattern Diamonds"
http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...21#post8355421

Also, a photo of a 2nd pattern in case which may be the same example, from Forman's "Bravery, Courage and Valour" posted here:
http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...21#post6641421

So far, that's two different 1st patterns and at least one 2nd pattern attributed at different times to Gollob.
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And here's a completely different "1st type" diamonds posted by Sepp in 2013 as "Gollob's diamonds".
https://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/...03#post5743703
That one is a fake IMHO!
Good to know, thanks Dietrich. How about the 2nd pattern example posted from the 1970s photo?

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Old 09-28-2019, 09:46 AM   #14
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Also bad IMHO. Foreman is realy not a safe source for identifying real pieces,especially when from the 70s.
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Old 09-28-2019, 10:05 AM   #15
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Perhaps there were any photos from the A-piece Gollob when the complete estate was sold a long time ago!
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