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Old 10-18-2019, 02:13 PM   #1
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One of the most shy third reich personalities is, above all watermarks, Heinrich Müller!

What happened to him at the end of WWII?
Where did he go, what did he do.

Have you seen his uniform or visor?

Only a few pictures of him can be seen today.

Please share pictures and information, if you have them.

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Old 10-18-2019, 02:24 PM   #2
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One more of Heinrich Müller
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:50 PM   #3
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Hi,

Müller most probably committed suicide in the RSHA-Reichsluftfahrtministerium area on May 1st when the death of Hitler was announced, before the ill-fated breakthrough that took place during the night of May 1st to May 2nd on the Weidendammer Brücke. The area was still under the control of the French SS "Charlemagne" Sturmbataillon remnants up to the morning of May 2nd (the French SS didn't had the signal of the breakthrough, so they kept their positions).

Gregory Douglas (pseudonym) published starting from 1998 some fantasy accounts of Müller being a CIA informant in the USA after the war, and like for other "missing" high-ranking nazis, many stories surfaced since 1945 of Müller being "alive and well" somewhere on Earth (cf Ladislas Farago book on Bormann).

Müller body was put - like thousand of other dead German soldiers - in some mass graves after the fights, the same happened for Bormann (who was part of the breakthrough convoy).

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Old 10-18-2019, 05:04 PM   #4
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Hi,

Bormann’s remains was found in 1972, the dental records showed that it was Bormann. There is no evidence that Müller died at the end of the war! The CIA rumours is just that, rumours...

This and the lack of information makes his disappearance highly interesting.
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:11 PM   #5
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Hi,

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...99U0XY20131031

There is more plausibility in this scenario that all the fantasy tales told by other (monetary) sources.

People implying mystery over more plaisible explanations usually totally forgot the condition of the disappearance of Müller = total chaos of Berlin, in which life didn't matter or so, and in which death can happen very easily, even more for "famous" people that would be hard to hide (to the contrary of many "simple" SS soldiers that were able to hide and escape) and would be easily recognized. If Müller was first buried near the Reichsluftfahrtministerium, it imply that he lost his life in the last dozen of hours of the fights in this area, and as the frontline there was on the responsability of the "Charlemagne" Sturmbataillon remnants, we may plausibly said that or Müller committed suicide, or he was killed in the last hours of the fights (like was the ordnance officer of Krukenberg, Valentin Patzak, who went MIA during his mission to pass the message of the breakthrough on the evening of May 1st to the remnants of the Sturmbataillon "Charlemagne").

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Old 10-18-2019, 06:42 PM   #6
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Old 10-18-2019, 07:26 PM   #7
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This is an interesting document related to Müller
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Old 10-26-2019, 01:26 PM   #8
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A very interesting document you have there Sepp45!

I found a another picture of H. Müller (second from the left) in Andrew Mollo’s:
“Uniforms of the SS, Volume 5; Sicherheitsdienst und Sicherheitspolizei”.
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Old 10-26-2019, 02:46 PM   #9
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Heydrich (?) is wearing a bullion SD raute that would never pass muster these days if it turned up for appraisal

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Old 10-26-2019, 03:39 PM   #10
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Here's a better quality version of the same photo.

It's always puzzled me why bother to make and wear a blank cufftitle!?
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Old 10-27-2019, 10:58 AM   #11
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Old 10-28-2019, 11:37 AM   #12
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Hello,

Ben..that plain CT is a work of art, silver to bring attention to ones self.. only the top guys wear the Amtchefs CTs...mega mega rare.

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Old 10-28-2019, 11:41 AM   #13
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Hauptamtschef and Amtschef titles are very rare. Never found a loose original one. Some delight collections have tunics with such titles. Lower rank Amt titles are even more rare to find then the HA Chef title for my view.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:28 PM   #14
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Müller?
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:11 PM   #15
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Müller in civilian clothes?
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