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Could someone please post proper markings for a 44 dot pattern.
Old 01-29-2004, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default Could someone please post proper markings for a 44 dot pattern.

Like the title says!

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Old 01-29-2004, 06:33 PM   #2
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Erik,

wish I could help but both my examples (smooth and herringbone set) are still packed away so I have no photos on file sorry, maybe some of the other guys could help

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PS do you have one can you post a picture of the markings,
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Here are maker and size stamp markings in my M44 dot tunic.
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:45 PM   #4
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does placement matter? and how about the infamous SS-BW. Was there ever a wavy line reinforcement on the backside of the collar? Are the buttons usually marked?

Man I keep editing to add questions. Hopefully thats it for now.


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Old 01-29-2004, 07:02 PM   #5
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Erik,

PS do you have one can you post a picture of the markings,
Sorry didnt notice this little snippit the first time. I do but I cannot get them up until midnight ET.
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Old 01-29-2004, 07:04 PM   #6
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Elvis,

There is a simple solution - buy Mike Beaver's "Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen SS" and study it. That way you will gain a strong basis on which to build.

Attached is the image of a smooth cotton M44.

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There is a simple solution - buy Mike Beaver's "Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen SS" and study it. That way you will gain a strong basis on which to build.

Mike
I would love to get some books but I am pretty sure this will be a one time shot for me. The uniform I am working on getting would be a good deal.

Thanks for the pics.
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:23 AM   #8
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Here's the markings on the inside left.....
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:29 AM   #9
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No opinions? The more I look into this uniform and poke around researching closer I come to believing it is real. I think it all looks good so far.


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Old 01-30-2004, 05:39 PM   #10
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"There is a simple solution - buy Mike Beaver's "Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen SS" and study it."

I second that, then get the uniform 3 vol set after that, these books are a must have.

Erik

Can you post photo's of the whole jacket inside out? I must say that though this type of jacket is best with a hands on look although there are some who will be able to tell you from the pictures, I am not one of those on this type of jacket sorry, it looks to me as if the markings are buy the belt hook holes?
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:00 PM   #11
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There are on the inside left just below the armpit to the left of the belt holes. Where is a good place to get these books? Are they through the one we get discounts through?
this is the same jacket posted in a thread I put up a couple weeks ago.

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Elvis,

Allow my frustration to show - you have posted this stuff twice on at least two different forums. We have responded (including experts such as Gary W.) but no one can guarentee anything on photos alone - especially those as limited as yours. I have recommended an appraisal by acknowleged authorities - but you do not appear interested (or prepared to spend the $). You further state that this will be a "one-off" and that you do need need to acquire the research material to make your own judgements.

Bottom line - this is up to you alone. You must make the decision. No one is going to make it for you - this is a decision point: get serious about SS collecting or get out.

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Bottom line - this is up to you alone. You must make the decision. No one is going to make it for you - this is a decision point: get serious about SS collecting or get out.

Mike
HAHA.. I have contacted a good authenticator. Unfortunately I cannot send it to him right yet. I would like to get as much info on here or the other site before I get to deep into it. I love it when people say you have posted the same thing on 2 forums. The reason People do that is because different people frequent different forums. Just b/c someone posts here does not mean they post on the other side. I know of at least one good example that does this. I am not upset with you. I understand where your frustration could be coming from. Unfortunately you do not know all of the circumstances. I am in a career field that requires a lot of patience, and it is nice when I get it back some times, but please do not post if you are going to try and knock me down.

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One word of caution, MOST SO CALLED EXPERTS AREN'T, and what is in your hand is junk while what is in their hand is always GOLD.
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Elvis.
Could you post photos of the uniform ?
Photos on what thread is being used in the stitching, type of buttons, panels in the lining, pattern of the camoflage and so on.
Excelent repros has been made. I my self got burned on a M44 Dot jacket with trousers.
I know that the SS-BW marking where used during the war. There are US Army photos showing it being used. On the other hand, reprodusers and fakers use this type of marking to make repros look more "original"

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