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Does this 1941 Luger look good?
Old 04-01-2016, 09:26 AM   #1
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Default Does this 1941 Luger look good?

Have an opportunity to purchase this exact gun. I've always wanted to own one for my collection, but don't know much about them. Haven't seen it in person yet, but will soon. I'm hoping you guys can tell me if there's something wrong with it or what I should look out for. At first glance it looks suspiciously clean to me, don't know if that's a bad thing with guns. He says the serials all match and haven't been rubbed or anything like that. I understand price is completely subjective, but what is a fair $$$ range for this particular gun?


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Old 04-01-2016, 09:37 AM   #2
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Looks a nice tidy byf coded 41 luger. matching numbers with "black widow" grips.

They do tend to hold up well and shoot ok. however, not very accurately

The magazine looks like a later addition?

As for price, It's worth what you want to pay.
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:31 PM   #3
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Looks like an honest old gal from the pics . Always best to have it in hand and apart for a buying look though . A place to look for comparable examples and DEALER pricing is Simpson LTD . They have a separate section for " Black Widows " . Yes I know that name bothers some but it is the name used on their site . The section " Mauser " will give many more examples with wood grips . Mag looks fine to me . IF STRAIGHT and looking like it does in pics in person I would guess $1,500 to $1,900 should be in the ball park . I personally like guns in that shape as rhey are less apt to be lying to you . Good luck ! Dave
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:57 PM   #4
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Thank you both for responding. I'll go see it in person. Much appreciated.
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:13 PM   #5
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Ford Nut has nailed it!! Nice honest gun. Go for it!!
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:07 PM   #6
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Agree

Nice honest Luger. And a variation that will go up in value.

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Old 04-02-2016, 04:24 AM   #7
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I agree with the others. From what I can see the gun looks like a good piece.

When you get to view it in person, be sure to take it apart. Look at the grips closely. Many "black widow" grips have been added to guns post war to give it that, "Black" look. A tell tale sign of this, is the grips will be "fitted" by filing off material. This is almost always found around the area where the magazine release button cut out is.
Also, make sure all parts internally match of course.

As for value, What is the asking price? I always make the seller give a starting price. Don't just toss out a blind offer. You may low ball him, and he'll be turned off. You may overpay for it. Or, worse, he may just be "fishing" to see what he can sell it for? I've had this happen too many times. That's why I never make an offer when I'm the buyer. I always ask for a price.
Also Remember, Cash is king!

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Old 04-02-2016, 12:59 PM   #8
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Many "black widow" grips have been added to guns post war to give it that, "Black" look.



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The " r " block of 41 byf's is considered the starting point of black grips by many . From that point it's a mixed bag . AND as mentioned LOOK CLOSE at EVERYTHING .
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:20 PM   #9
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Mag could be correct. If it is black plastic, it should be maker marked Fxo and will have no serial number on it.
Overall, the gun looks very promising.
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:39 PM   #10
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The " r " block of 41 byf's is considered the starting point of black grips by many . From that point it's a mixed bag . AND as mentioned LOOK CLOSE at EVERYTHING .
Exactly my point! This gun is a late "o" block.

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Old 04-03-2016, 12:02 AM   #11
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Looks to be a " v " to me .
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Exactly my point! This gun is a late "o" block.

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Old 04-03-2016, 07:49 AM   #12
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Looks to be a " v " to me .
Then look again! It's definitely an "o" block. The "v" does not close at the top as the "o" does, and it has an extra squiggle line coming out to the right side.


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Then look again! It's definitely an "o" block. The "v" does not close at the top as the "o" does, and it has an extra squiggle line coming out to the right side.


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Page 234 " The Mauser Parrabellum 1930-1946 " . As I already posted it looks like a " v " to me .
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Old 04-03-2016, 09:27 PM   #14
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Looks like you are correct. My brain is getting old, and I confused my "o" with "v". The "o" has the extra snuggle to the right of it. But I didn't cheat and use a book. smile wink

Still doesn't change what I mentioned earlier. Many of these grips were changed out to give it that "Black" look. So check the grips closely.

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