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Old 12-13-2008, 04:06 PM   #91
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another variation oil bottle also, late war I believe, this one has the screw bottom but no screw top, more like the bakelite version

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Old 12-13-2008, 06:55 PM   #92
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Hi,
One contributor asked the correct use of the looped end of the floorplate takedown tool?
I haven't tried this for some time, but if you wish to strip down the K98k bolt it has to be cocked before you can unscrew the back end.
If you inadvertantly turn the bolt when out of the gun so the firing pin goes forward you need to pull it back again and then turn the bolt handle to keep it cocked.
On one side of the rear portion of the firing pin there's a milled slot. While holding the barrel of the bolt in one hand, you clip the flat end of the loop on the tool into that slot, pull back the firing pin, and then return the bolt knob to the position as when first removed from the rifle.
You can then dismantle the bolt and by using the hole in the steel disc in the stock you can then strip down the firing pin/spring assembly.
A few pics would explain it clearer!
If anyone can depict the process it would help.
I'm still looking for a late-war can with wire "chain" and pressed oiler. The RG34 is just another fascinating piece of field gear.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:05 AM   #93
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Hi Grossfuss

I guess you mean this:





To be honest I don't think these were used for this because of the following reasons :

1. It isn't documented in the manuals I have for the cleaning kit ( and the other use for cleaning and removing the floor plate are very well shown)

2. It doesn't fit... the handle of the removal tool is too thick

But your idea was very well figured out I must admit

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Old 12-15-2008, 01:08 PM   #94
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Hi Tom,
That's put that idea on to the back burner - well illustrated!
I can't remember who told me that theory, it sounded good at the time - over 30-odd years ago I must admit.
This begs the question - if that part of the tool's not for that purpose - what is it for?
Perhaps we can wriggle the answer out of the woodwork somehow - any ex-Waffenmeister out there?
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:21 PM   #95
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right out of the manual




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Old 12-16-2008, 06:40 AM   #96
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I am surprised... Have never thought this is the true .....

Even official name of this tool - "Hulsenkopfwischer" describes true destination of it - "chamber cleaner"....
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:23 AM   #97
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That's exactly why I love to collect those manuals as well

The use of the Hülsenkopfwischer is also described in teh 1936 K98 manual and in the Unterrichtsbuch für Soldaten Ausbildungsjahr 1938/39

I have already described the use of the tool here on my site

http://www.mp44.nl/equipment/rg34.htm

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Old 12-16-2008, 05:04 PM   #98
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Thanks both!
Totally, thoroughly, 100% explained!
Oh the difference in the German psyche - let's put everything in little tins and make it all so complex (and thereby interesting), compared to the British string pull-through and a piece of "four-by-two"!
Having said that, I've always thought the British gasmask set-up more practical in some ways - but that's another thread!
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Old 08-16-2009, 09:54 PM   #99
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Wow, great manual!

Here is a variation I was missing and finally found. A mint complete untouched green 'AB44'.
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A nice early 'KY1940' in ordnance blue-gray.
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All marked 'KY1940'.
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That's a great thread with great items, too bad I missed it when it started. Whatever, I'll take the chance to add my little contribution to it today with this one, made by Hawig too, in phosphated finish ; it's a bit salty :
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