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Old 12-10-2004, 09:52 PM   #76
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[QUOTE=Peter C]Here is an example of an ftd marked kit. It is a relatively rare maker.

Peter, I too have an ftd marked K98k cleaning kit....It has an ftd takedown tool but pull-through chain and oiler are marked ab....The oiler is dated '42....Mine too has the red rust inhibitive primer....One curious feature is no waffen amt on the can....One guy told me because these weren't issued to front line troops but relegated more to "2nd line troops" such as RAD, government units (postal, reichbahn) etc? Bodes
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:04 AM   #77
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Guys we really are on just the tip of the iceberg with what we think we know about German equipment. Report those samples! The material on the black oiler is like the same composition as a SG42 scabbard. Will try to add a big pic to this link later today. regards, john c. jacobi
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:43 AM   #78
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I will post some info and pics of my arr41 waffen ampt kit soon!
Great info everyone, lets see some more examples, every collecter of TR must have at least one!
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:57 PM   #79
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Sounds just like mine Jeff.

Bakelite oiler?

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David.
Hi, David.

No, milled (?) steel oiler, marked "HAWIG".

Is the blue for Luftwaffe? or is the blue I see actually a "field grey"?

Also, what is the correct use for the "loop" end of the spoon? Mine is unmarked.

The kit is marked "cmr 41" on the right lid top, Wa (number illegible from rust) on left. Oiler marked "Hawig", chain marked "cmr" and Wa.

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Old 12-12-2004, 02:53 PM   #80
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Has anyone ever seen a tool marked like this one? It was in a G.Appel kit I got many years ago.

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Old 12-12-2004, 03:00 PM   #81
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In reference to the question about blue-gray being Luftwaffe. The answer is no. Like most ordnance items (ammo cans, etc, etc) they can come in ordnance gray-green, dark blue-gray or tan. Others, such as grenades and sleeves, scope cases, etc come in only 2 of those 3 colors...no blue-gray. Though I do think original zf4 metal caes do come in ordnance blue-gray. I am sure I left much out of this.
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Old 12-12-2004, 03:06 PM   #82
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[QUOTE=mrfarb]Has anyone ever seen a tool marked like this one? It was in a G.Appel kit I got many years ago.


Definitely appears to be bnz (steyr) made but do not recognize the WaA as such...I believe bnz is WaA623....Bodes
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Old 12-12-2004, 03:13 PM   #83
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Has anyone ever seen a tool marked like this one? It was in a G.Appel kit I got many years ago.


Definitely appears to be bnz (steyr) made but do not recognize the WaA as such...I believe bnz is WaA623....Bodes
I just looked up WaA #'s and noticed WaA815 is correct of Steyr....But I believe used in the plants which produced Machine Pistols....Your piece appears to be a floorplate takedown tool.....Of course it's possible they produced these for the K98k....Bodes
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:36 PM   #84
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Don't you just hate when you find stuff you didn't remember you had?

Here is a mid-war "cnx" made kit, complete with black plastic oiler.
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And a few unissued bundles of cleaning material.
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What are your thoughts on this one ?
Old 12-13-2004, 07:13 AM   #86
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Question What are your thoughts on this one ?

Today I got this one in the mail.

Appart form the mark in the lid there are no markings what so ever.

The interior can be taken out and is also made of bakelite.



... and the marking ...



... it reads N44 and 7* ...

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Old 12-14-2004, 09:49 AM   #87
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... or is the blue I see actually a "field grey"?

The kit is marked "cmr 41" on the right lid top, Wa (number illegible from rust) on left. Oiler marked "Hawig", chain marked "cmr" and Wa.

Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Looking at the others I guess the "blue" must be field grey, sure looks blue to me though.

I've never really looked at the contents before. The only item with a mark is the tool and the mark is 64 so it looks like this is a put together. Never mind it was cheap and I like it .

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Old 12-17-2004, 09:55 AM   #88
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Thanks, guys. That ends my quest for the "Luftwaffe" answer.

Nice kit, David. Now I know what the Wa # on mine is. After looking at yours, with a loupe I can make mine out.

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Old 10-15-2005, 09:14 PM   #89
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sorry to revive this old thread, but i have an unmarked can. all you can see waffenampt is the left wind and the torso, including the head. the right wing, legs and swastika are missing.

all around the can someone scratched "379". this scracting is also done inside the bottom lid twice.

the chain is marked G. Appel 1889 and has a waffenampt NA 67 next to it.

Those are the only marks i could find. by looking at the pictures posted here my chain appears to be pre-war.

could anybody tell me something about this kit?

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Old 12-13-2008, 04:04 PM   #90
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interesting thread,

I have a couple in my collection, another chain variation in my cmr43 kit on the left

the kit on the right is ky1940, I think this is the gun no. stamped on the side? perhaps police issue?

cheers

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