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Old 08-18-2019, 07:16 AM   #1
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:17 AM   #2
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:19 AM   #3
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:22 AM   #4
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Hello,
need help with this fresg find, no touched, sofd dusted, taken on camera with not so good fast photos, but I still surprised with completion, perfect condition of device and especialy cloth carring straps for case...But stil do not know what is it. Thanks all for help
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:48 AM   #5
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It looks like a theodolite

Awesome find my friend.

Looking forward to learning more about it & seeing some more photos.




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Old 08-18-2019, 09:19 AM   #6
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Yep,

Looks like a theodolite. The two angled optics reminds me of some Flak device.
The wooden battery box is unusual. The way the straps are attached to the box is also unusual.
If it had not the three letters codes, I would have said some postwar device.
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:27 AM   #7
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It is not post war for sure...Under green colour on the box is tipical yellow colour and device is also marked Tp-tropen...never see on post war items
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:31 AM   #8
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So box was painted over. Maybe careful removal of green paint on the top will reveal some name for the device ???
I assume the two pictures of content in the cover inside do not provide a clue.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:46 PM   #9
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Ballon theodolite. For tracking weather balloons.
You release the balloon, then measure bearing and angle at specific intervals. Like once a second. (or, taking the watch here into account every 5 seconds ?)
This gives an indication of wind speeds up through the atmosphere. Useful for meteorologists, and also important, long range artillery.
It gives an indication for the adjustments needed to compensate for wind drifting of grenades flying long range = High flying grenades.
Artillery still uses this technique. Only today, the ballooon carries a small transmitter, and it is followed by a small radar. Making the watch/clock obsolete.
I may be old school here. A GPS transmitter would probably make even the radar obsolete these days.
At an army exercise 15 years ago, I saw a german Bundeswehr unit sending balloons up. We supplied them with food and hot coffee, as the very tired and wet germans were camping outside our cafeteria.

bxx is askania Werke. ( as far as I recall) which, incidently, is known for making balloon theodolites.

Watch is f*** amazing... detail photo´s please. I knew a watch is needed to measure, but I have never seen it in a box like this. Complete set indeed.


Update.. I wonder if Knirim know of it´s use. http://www.knirim.de/
2nd. Update.. Tp MAY mean Teodolit Pibal. https://www.yourdictionary.com/pibal I am not sure if this is also a german name for it.

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Old 08-18-2019, 03:47 PM   #10
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Something new I have learnt today. Thanks


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Very very interesting info !! Thank you. I had no idea then something like German Pilot Balloon Theodolite ever existed...I will try to make some better photos asap
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https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...QrN4lqbSgIReIw

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...act=mrc&uact=8

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Old 08-20-2019, 08:19 AM   #13
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Yes, it's balloon tracking theodolite (Pilotballon Theodolit).

Here you can see the similar theodolite from Askania Werke.

https://web.csulb.edu/~mbrenner/askania.htm
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