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Old 04-17-2019, 10:57 AM   #16
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Another fake bar I just saw up for auction
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:47 AM   #17
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Hi Tom,

Mmmm, 8 place, all IIIrd Reich I'm sure they DO exist but that alone rings the alarm bells for me.

I have three 6 place IIIrd Reich bars, 2 of those have a couple of foreign ribbons and three 5 place IIIrd Reich bars, also 2 of those have two foreign ribbons.

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Old 04-17-2019, 09:17 PM   #18
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Ian,

I have some longer bars of 8 - 10 decorations which are all WWII era, but those are rare. For the most part, they wouldn’t exist without foreign awards. I’m sure there are some higher functionary exceptions, to your point.

Otherwise longer bars nearly always are combo bars between both wars.

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Old 04-18-2019, 12:04 AM   #19
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Why is that? The actual design or the fact that there are swords attached?


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Truly awful.

(Gotta love that Police Long Service Award with Swords...)
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:57 AM   #20
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Why is that? The actual design or the fact that there are swords attached?
The swords. There is no such thing as a long service award with swords.
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Old 04-18-2019, 02:06 AM   #21
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Check out Petz & Lorenz sales catalogue.


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Old 04-18-2019, 02:31 AM   #22
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I don't have that catalogue.

I know that such combined devices were used on lapel bows that represented the ribbons for several decorations whose devices were rolled into one like this and placed on top, but it shouldn't appear on a ribbon bar, where the individual ribbons appear side by side with the devices attached to the respective ribbon.
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Old 04-18-2019, 07:07 AM   #23
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Thanks for the clarification. Your previous response "There is no such thing as a long service award with swords" did not account for this scenario, hence my question.


As a sidenote, Angolia suggested the following in his book "For Führer ....." 1978:
/It is possible that a ribbon device was also created for active police members who served in combat in a police formation. The device was a police emblem in silver surmounting two crossed golds swords/.


There is no reference to this suggestion and Angolia is known to be incorrect before, so it it what it is. Either way, the device shown here is not correct in design, as it is all in gold. The police device should also be positioned much lower on the swords.


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Old 04-18-2019, 09:27 AM   #24
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As a sidenote, Angolia suggested the following in his book "For Führer ....." 1978:
/It is possible that a ribbon device was also created for active police members who served in combat in a police formation. The device was a police emblem in silver surmounting two crossed golds swords/.


There is no reference to this suggestion and Angolia is known to be incorrect before, so it it what it is. Either way, the device shown here is not correct in design, as it is all in gold. The police device should also be positioned much lower on the swords.


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Hi Peter, yes, 1978 is a very long time ago and those books and others of the period often look woefully out-dated these days.


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... more pathetic auction crap
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Thumbs down ... more pathetic auction crap

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Wow, what a sh*t show. All with that same thread & the pin at the top of the bar. Lot of this bad stuff out there unfortunately.

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(First time I've seen a mini for the Ost medal; does that even exist?)
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What's not to love !!

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Wow, what a sh*t show. All with that same thread & the pin at the top of the bar. Lot of this bad stuff out there unfortunately.

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(First time I've seen a mini for the Ost medal; does that even exist?)
I saw some mini osts before
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What's not to love !!

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Still can't beat this one.
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Old 04-27-2019, 04:03 PM   #30
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Still can't beat this one.
Yep, no doubt about it … those win hands down (they must have forgotten the Blood Order and the Memelland )

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