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Old 03-08-2017, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default Fake bevo skull

Wasnt this type deemed fake?

Its on this site:
http://www.lux-military-antiques.com...-cap-skull.htm



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Old 03-08-2017, 06:50 PM   #2
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Yes, think that was the conclusion.
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:01 PM   #3
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We still do not know if it is original to the period, or not.

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Old 03-09-2017, 02:32 AM   #4
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I don't agree . . .
If this was deemed as a fake then where are all the others ?
Fakes are world wide . . . Has anyone ever seen another ?
If my memory serves me well even Martin Styles had one for sale ?
IMO this is a very rare and desirable item . . .
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:34 AM   #5
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Hanners reich has one for examination but its a collar tab. But is theire evidence of them in wear in wartime pictures? I recall some member telling they were 1960's made on an other thread

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Old 03-09-2017, 03:54 AM   #6
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Hanners reich has one for examination but its a collar tab. But is theire evidence of them in wear in wartime pictures? I recall some member telling they were 1960's made on an other thread


My understanding this was a general purpose cloth skull badge which doubled up as a collar patch as well as cap insignia. I still believe this is a rare and desired item.
As once again where are all the others how often do you see them ?
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:58 AM   #7
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It could be 50/50 with these items. If theire real they are indeed very rare

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Old 03-09-2017, 04:56 AM   #8
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I have manged to find the posts that examined this skull in dept . . .
For those who have never encountered this item before

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=Bevo+Skull

http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=785175


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Old 03-09-2017, 02:51 PM   #9
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My understanding this was a general purpose cloth skull badge which doubled up as a collar patch as well as cap insignia. I still believe this is a rare and desired item.
As once again where are all the others how often do you see them ?
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I agree, and maybe foreign made.

As for them showing up in the 60's like many other original items, it doesn't bother me at all.

No photos yet of them in wear but also no photos of ss paratrooper smocks and some other articles we know were produced pre 1945.

I like them and consider them period made.
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Old 03-09-2017, 04:09 PM   #10
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No photos yet of them in wear but also no photos of ss paratrooper smocks and some other articles we know were produced pre 1945.
This is a very good point! This is a core question and should be the first to come up whenever an item with other interesting characteristics shows up (and often is doomed to be fake) – but where are all the others then!? Period pictures are not a 100% guarantee to determine actual existence because we know for sure many photos and archives were destroyed post 08.05.45 and we will never know what they actually documented.
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If memory serves Many years ago at a small gun/militaria show ..A waffen SS Officers field cap with this style eagle..factory installed soutache...and an odd bevo eagle machine sewn to the side flap appeared for sale..for dirt cheap.I LAUGHED HEARTILY at the Odd Insignia...but REMEMBER marveling at the quality of the cap..construction and materials...PROBABLY RIGHT AND REAL..Billbert
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Old 03-10-2017, 01:19 AM   #12
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I do not believe these are period, as I stated in the thread dedicated to these skulls. There is no way this was produced before 1945, and I am surprised (again) this is even being considered to be original.

If anyone wants one, there is one for sale on Gunbroker, where it has sat for almost a year for sale. If any of you want to buy one of these, I'll send you the link - it's 300.00 for a "original" skull and the rare "original" matching sidecap eagle, also discussed and considered original by some.

This is a total fantasy skull, IMO.

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Old 03-10-2017, 01:20 AM   #13
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Before anyone gets excited about the cap itself...
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Old 03-10-2017, 01:24 AM   #14
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...and this is the rare "flatwire" version - so for all of you who lament passing on these and consider them rare, here's your chance!

I posted the availability of this skull and cap months ago in a discussion thread, and no one made a move on the cap. That should tell you something.

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Old 03-10-2017, 06:33 AM   #15
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Real or not... I haven't yet trown away my skull like this :-)

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