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Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present From West Germany through to the modern reunified German Republic.

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Old 08-13-2008, 03:41 PM   #61
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...and a view of the interior . Seems the paper stick- on logo by the manufacture was lost a long time ago ! It was gone when I bought this shoka in a small militaria shop in Tampa , Florida , 30 years ago !
Price was $ 75 !
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:43 PM   #62
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Here an other front plate I have .
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:45 PM   #63
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... and close-up of the center .
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:26 PM   #64
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I do not have a close photo (because I take whole roll of 35mm and develop it on disk) of the patch but it is woven cloth version. Basically a blue oval with "DB" at top and "Bahnpolizei" at bottom. In middle is winged DB train wheel. There also exist embroidered wool versions with and without DB. Current version for green uniform is green Schriftzug "Bahnpolizei" above BGS/Bupo shield.
Actually the reason I asked for the shot of the patch is that there are two different versions of this patch.

The initial version of this patch was simply the winged wheel with the legend "Bahnpolizei". Some time later a small "DB" patch was applied over the logo. Later, this style was replaced by fully embroidered version.

These "2 piece" patches are increasingly hard to find.

Additionally, when the hats where changed from the silver star with wheel & wing logo, to the federal eagle version. The eagle design was "cut" into the badge and enameled. BGS eagles had the eagle logo but it was flush with the surface.

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Old 08-13-2008, 04:46 PM   #65
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Doug

Outstanding Berlin Bepo patch & Tschako !!!!!!

FYI, in the event that you don't already know. What you have there are 1st issue pieces with what is referred to as the "High Crown".

After WWII the civilian police went back to wearing the state crest insignia (Stadtwappen) of Berlin (design of 1920). Because of the increasing tensions with the divided city, the West German government adopted a new style with modified crown and institued it's use in 1954.

Both your items are pre-54. Congrats !!!!!!!

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Old 08-13-2008, 05:19 PM   #66
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Here is a fairly good chart showing the progression. First up are bi-lingual patches from from the French & English sectors. Then it moves into the German only.

Please feel free to ask any questions and I will do my best to answer.

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Old 08-13-2008, 05:21 PM   #67
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:30 PM   #68
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Andrew : Thanks for your king remark .
What time frame is the Berlin Police Officer's visor cap I showed ???
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:09 AM   #69
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Andrew : Thanks for your king remark .
What time frame is the Berlin Police Officer's visor cap I showed ???
Doug

What you have is a Sr. Officers hat which would have been worn anytime after the crest redesign in 1954 till the uniform changeover period in the mid 70's.

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Old 08-14-2008, 09:47 AM   #70
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Andrew,

I can not see the patches in post #66. Can others see them? If not, could you try again please.

Dpug,

Some very nice Berlin polizei items. Thanks for posting them.

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For anyone interested in seeing more German police items, please feel free to take a look at my website.

German Police Collection
http://www.huntzmanpatches.com/germany(C).htm


German Police Wanted Section
http://www.huntzmanpatches.com/german_wanted(W).htm

I'm constantly trying to improve it, so if you haven't taken a look recently you might want to take a peek.

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Old 08-20-2008, 01:36 PM   #72
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Andrew and Gordon : Thanks for the kind remarks and the great info .
Here now my 1968 dated NIEDERSACHSEN POLIZEI Hptm . tunic . Posted by Bernd .
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:37 PM   #73
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,,Side view .
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:40 PM   #74
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The tunic is made of thick dark green wool and the interior has a dark green silk liner .
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:44 PM   #75
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Here a view of the interior . There are belt ramp support straps . Sleeve liner is a gray silk liner .
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