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Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 11-23-2008, 11:26 AM
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Posted By SprogCollector
I was looking around a local surplus store and...

I was looking around a local surplus store and noted that there is a substantial color change between LW uniforms prior to the 1980s and those produced more recently. This was most notable when I...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 03-02-2008, 10:00 AM
Replies: 197
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Posted By SprogCollector
Was there a final wear-out date for the early...

Was there a final wear-out date for the early uniforms (Affenjacke and Ausgehenanzug)? With the modifications illustrated on Gordon's latest jacket, it seems these were around well after the...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-29-2008, 08:23 AM
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Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon: The jacket pattern looks correct. What...

Gordon: The jacket pattern looks correct. What color is the collar piping? It appears a bronze color.

As you've mentioned, the addition of the collar tabs and cuff titles would be expected to...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-20-2008, 08:02 PM
Replies: 197
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Posted By SprogCollector
Hi Uwe, Thanks for your post. My...

Hi Uwe,
Thanks for your post.

My confusion was that, until this thread, I was unaware that the modern basic Luftwaffe badge had been previously used as an aircrew badge.
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-20-2008, 09:24 AM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Thanks for your replies. Very helpful. I...

Thanks for your replies. Very helpful.

I think some of my confusion arises from a uniform I have from the late 1980s. The jacket does not have the turnback cuffs and does not have the generic...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-19-2008, 07:26 AM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
The photo in post #92 offers some intriguing...

The photo in post #92 offers some intriguing research points.

Gordon: thanks for pointing out some of the relevant dates within this thread. I've read the entire post a few times but managed to...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-18-2008, 11:12 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon, Along the same lines, would an...

Gordon,
Along the same lines, would an Affenjacke worn after 1958 still be without the collar tabs? I agree this tunic begs many questions.

Questions I still have regarding timelines:
1. When...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-18-2008, 07:52 AM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Found this photo online. Appears to be an...

Found this photo online. Appears to be an Affenjacke. I thought it noteworthy to point out the small wing worn high on the left chest. Looks like the same wing worn on the current LW uniform.

No...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-17-2008, 09:02 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon, Finally picked up the bronze wing that...

Gordon,
Finally picked up the bronze wing that was missing from my Luftwaffe Dienstmütze. This is one of my earliest LW caps -- 1960. This would have gone with your affenjacke.
...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-17-2008, 11:37 AM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon, I'm aware of the piped Army caps but...

Gordon,
I'm aware of the piped Army caps but have never come across a piped LW cap.

If piped caps were worn, did the Luftwaffe uniforms maintain the branch color on the collar tabs, as well --...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-16-2008, 09:51 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon, I have a 1961-dated Luftwaffe sidecap...

Gordon,
I have a 1961-dated Luftwaffe sidecap which has the yellow piping -- which I thought was universally used? In comparing my cap to those you posted, the first item I see that raised...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
So, I guess my next question is the cuff titles....

So, I guess my next question is the cuff titles. Do they/did they denote aircrew status? I was under the assumption that they were a generic feature on luftwaffe uniforms -- i.e. everyone wore them. ...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 02-03-2008, 10:45 AM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon, Regarding your early double-breasted LW...

Gordon,
Regarding your early double-breasted LW tunic, I found the attached photo in one of my books. It shows Gerhard Barkhorn wearing the officer version of this early jacket. Note the lack of...
Forum: Bundesrepublik Deutschland, 1949-Present 01-27-2008, 08:41 PM
Replies: 197
Views: 38,847
Posted By SprogCollector
Gordon, The cap that goes with your...

Gordon,
The cap that goes with your double-breasted jacket is either the service dress cap or the M-43 style dienstmütze. I have some scans from a very old uniform manual sent to me by a friend in...
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