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DougO 08-13-2008 03:41 PM

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...and a view of the interior . Seems the paper stick- on logo by the manufacture was lost a long time ago ! It was gone when I bought this shoka in a small militaria shop in Tampa , Florida , 30 years ago !
Price was $ 75 !:)

DougO 08-13-2008 03:43 PM

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Here an other front plate I have .

DougO 08-13-2008 03:45 PM

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... and close-up of the center .

Huntzman 08-13-2008 04:26 PM

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I do not have a close photo (because I take whole roll of 35mm and develop it on disk) of the patch but it is woven cloth version. Basically a blue oval with "DB" at top and "Bahnpolizei" at bottom. In middle is winged DB train wheel. There also exist embroidered wool versions with and without DB. Current version for green uniform is green Schriftzug "Bahnpolizei" above BGS/Bupo shield.
Actually the reason I asked for the shot of the patch is that there are two different versions of this patch.

The initial version of this patch was simply the winged wheel with the legend "Bahnpolizei". Some time later a small "DB" patch was applied over the logo. Later, this style was replaced by fully embroidered version.

These "2 piece" patches are increasingly hard to find.

Additionally, when the hats where changed from the silver star with wheel & wing logo, to the federal eagle version. The eagle design was "cut" into the badge and enameled. BGS eagles had the eagle logo but it was flush with the surface.

Andrew

Huntzman 08-13-2008 04:46 PM

Doug

Outstanding Berlin Bepo patch & Tschako !!!!!!

FYI, in the event that you don't already know. What you have there are 1st issue pieces with what is referred to as the "High Crown".

After WWII the civilian police went back to wearing the state crest insignia (Stadtwappen) of Berlin (design of 1920). Because of the increasing tensions with the divided city, the West German government adopted a new style with modified crown and institued it's use in 1954.

Both your items are pre-54. Congrats !!!!!!! thumbsup

Andrew

Huntzman 08-13-2008 05:19 PM

Here is a fairly good chart showing the progression. First up are bi-lingual patches from from the French & English sectors. Then it moves into the German only.

Please feel free to ask any questions and I will do my best to answer.

Andrew

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4...polizeilb7.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4...0aa5acf455.jpg

Huntzman 08-13-2008 05:21 PM

double post

DougO 08-13-2008 10:30 PM

Andrew : Thanks for your king remark .
What time frame is the Berlin Police Officer's visor cap I showed ???

Huntzman 08-14-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DougO (Post 2779957)
Andrew : Thanks for your king remark .
What time frame is the Berlin Police Officer's visor cap I showed ???

Doug

What you have is a Sr. Officers hat which would have been worn anytime after the crest redesign in 1954 till the uniform changeover period in the mid 70's.

Andrew

Gordon Craig 08-14-2008 09:47 AM

Andrew,

I can not see the patches in post #66. Can others see them? If not, could you try again please.

Dpug,

Some very nice Berlin polizei items. Thanks for posting them.

Regards,

Gordon

Huntzman 08-14-2008 04:14 PM

For anyone interested in seeing more German police items, please feel free to take a look at my website.

German Police Collection
http://www.huntzmanpatches.com/germany(C).htm


German Police Wanted Section
http://www.huntzmanpatches.com/german_wanted(W).htm

I'm constantly trying to improve it, so if you haven't taken a look recently you might want to take a peek.

Andrew

DougO 08-20-2008 01:36 PM

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Andrew and Gordon : Thanks for the kind remarks and the great info .
Here now my 1968 dated NIEDERSACHSEN POLIZEI Hptm . tunic . Posted by Bernd .

DougO 08-20-2008 01:37 PM

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,,Side view .

DougO 08-20-2008 01:40 PM

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The tunic is made of thick dark green wool and the interior has a dark green silk liner .

DougO 08-20-2008 01:44 PM

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Here a view of the interior . There are belt ramp support straps . Sleeve liner is a gray silk liner .


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