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Niblet 12-14-2009 05:56 AM

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Grubhy 12-14-2009 06:03 AM

It is uncommon Luftschutz canteen:D Nice!

Niblet 12-14-2009 06:35 AM

Ok thanks!

pzo 12-14-2009 07:58 AM

'42 canteen
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Kuligowski (Post 3690972)
I dont think there is anything wrong - but alu cup made in 43 would be even better catch ;)

Majkol, You put it just in correct words.

MULON 12-15-2009 04:48 PM

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Finally arrived my first and only canteen with alu cup.....but EEF44 datatedsmilewink

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M44 Breadbag 12-15-2009 05:00 PM

Mulon

Nice cup what is the body made from and what are the marks?


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MULON 12-15-2009 05:02 PM

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Ciao BB, no mark present on alu bodythumbsup

whsammler 12-15-2009 08:57 PM

Mulon,

Congrats on your new canteen.

Looks like its in great condition.

M44 Breadbag 12-16-2009 03:36 AM

Is it me or does anybody else notice this on the cup, I think the letters and date look a little odd, if you will notice the first "E" seems larger than the second and the “F” is even bigger, the date is skewed somewhat as well. The fact that the canteen body has no date or other marking causes me to question if this is in fact a wartime manufactured piece. Aluminum body canteens for the most part were not manufactured after late 42 or early 43, yes there are exceptions, those I have seen are maker coded and stamped. The aluminum caps went out even earlier generally by 40 or 42, again with exceptions, these are maker coded and dated. By 44 nearly, if not all, caps were made from black Bakelite later on from sheet metal, painted generally the corresponding body color.
BB

MULON 12-16-2009 07:25 AM

Sorry BB, but I absolutely not agree on anything you say.
I collect and study canteens in depth, I have 56 in collection and I've seen / touched at least 300 in recent years ...... I saw the most incredible things in that regard!
In my opinion this piece is absolutely genuine and wartime, the flaws are due to the particular period of production (late war) where the re-use of any material and haste / approximation in the production were preprogative of those years.
Yet I doubt it ever so much, and when I can personally verify the pieces to remove all doubt in this regard .... I tried to paint stripping the glass in a small section of a solvent is not too invasive and nothing happened to differences in performances where the paint comes off immediately.

M44 Breadbag 12-16-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MULON (Post 3695343)
Sorry BB, but I absolutely not agree on anything you say.
I collect and study canteens in depth, I have 56 in collection and I've seen / touched at least 300 in recent years ...... I saw the most incredible things in that regard!
In my opinion this piece is absolutely genuine and wartime, the flaws are due to the particular period of production (late war) where the re-use of any material and haste / approximation in the production were preprogative of those years.
Yet I doubt it ever so much, and when I can personally verify the pieces to remove all doubt in this regard .... I tried to paint stripping the glass in a small section of a solvent is not too invasive and nothing happened to differences in performances where the paint comes off immediately.

Mulon

While I agree they used whatever was available, I must emphasize, canteen bodies were marked at the point of manufacture, weather it was 33 or 43, this is not marked at all. Aluminum cups do exist that were made in 45, I have one or two myself, the maker is HRE. The stamping, while maybe not exactly straight on the cup, the code letters and date do line up as this were all found on one steel stamp. They did not use separate letters and numbers for the code, even late in the war. This may be 100% period, I'm just bringing up points to consider. I too have 50 +/- canteens and have seen many, many more, I would look at this one more than once and very closely.

BB

pzo 12-16-2009 12:25 PM

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Let me introduce my freakiest canteen. Opinions are welcome.


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